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« Reply #100 on: January 19, 2009, 08:49:PM »
I believe MLK would roll over in his grave to see all of these so-called "leaders" of today twisting his message to make it mean the opposite of what he originally said.
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« Reply #101 on: January 19, 2009, 08:53:PM »
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I believe MLK would roll over in his grave to see all of these so-called "leaders" of today twisting his message to make it mean the opposite of what he originally said.

But Jackson and Sharpton haven't twisted anything.  They are just an extension of the same views MLK had.  Certainly not the opposite.  Read:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

MLK was one of the first of many culturally Marxist "Christian" ministers.
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« Reply #102 on: January 19, 2009, 09:00:PM »
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I believe MLK would roll over in his grave to see all of these so-called "leaders" of today twisting his message to make it mean the opposite of what he originally said.

But Jackson and Sharpton haven't twisted anything.  They are just an extension of the same views MLK had.  Certainly not the opposite.  Read:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

MLK was one of the first of many culturally Marxist "Christian" ministers.


I just think Jesse Jackson, Reverend Wright, and Al Sharpton have taken it into a whole new level with their messages, especially in  the case of Wright.
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« Reply #103 on: January 19, 2009, 09:17:PM »

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Yes but they didn't really tell anyone so their discoveries are insignificant.

Sure they are significant.  After the first peoples discovered the New World, word got back to Asia that there was lots of virgin territory to be populated.  How else could thousands of people migrate to the New World from Asia if the first immigrants did not tell anyone about their discoveries?  That is pretty significant if you ask me.
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« Reply #104 on: January 19, 2009, 10:18:PM »
I agree with the original poster's questions. What is the big deal? Total shuck and jive huckster whose legacy is media fabricated. In the interests of space:

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/01/the_unknown_mar.php
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« Reply #105 on: January 20, 2009, 08:49:AM »
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I guess Columbus Day seems odd to me because we are celebrating the man who discovered the new world.  No offense to anyone, but big deal.  It was bound to happen.  The world wasn't lacking for opportunists.

Columbus brought Catholicism to the Americas.  An act which saved many souls.

You make it sound as if that was his primary goal and the thing we celebrate about Columbus.  I may be wrong, but I always thought that his interest in the new world wasn't to spread the gospel, but to make money.  When Catholicism was brought to the new world, I don't think it was truly via Columbus himself.  Even if he did, as a federal holiday it would still be a "so what."
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« Reply #106 on: January 20, 2009, 10:14:AM »
When Columbus went to see Isabel he said conversion was his main interest. Isabel responded well to this.
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« Reply #107 on: January 20, 2009, 10:38:AM »

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When Columbus went to see Isabel he said conversion was his main interest. Isabel responded well to this.

Do the facts of history bear this out?  Perhaps telling the queen what she wanted to hear was how one got funds for a voyage.  I've just never heard about Columbus as the great evangelist.  In fact, I thought his main interest was to find a route to India, not save souls.
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« Reply #108 on: January 20, 2009, 10:44:AM »
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When Columbus went to see Isabel he said conversion was his main interest. Isabel responded well to this.

Do the facts of history bear this out?  Perhaps telling the queen what she wanted to hear was how one got funds for a voyage.  I've just never heard about Columbus as the great evangelist.  In fact, I thought his main interest was to find a route to India, not save souls.

Pardon me for speaking for Quis... but I don't think he meant that Columbus was an evangelist -- personally responsible for preaching the Gospel to the natives. He said that his arrival in America was "an act" that brought salvation to many - And that is true.

- Lisa
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« Reply #109 on: January 20, 2009, 11:06:AM »
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When Columbus went to see Isabel he said conversion was his main interest. Isabel responded well to this.

Do the facts of history bear this out?  Perhaps telling the queen what she wanted to hear was how one got funds for a voyage.  I've just never heard about Columbus as the great evangelist.  In fact, I thought his main interest was to find a route to India, not save souls.

Pardon me for speaking for Quis... but I don't think he meant that Columbus was an evangelist -- personally responsible for preaching the Gospel to the natives. He said that his arrival in America was "an act" that brought salvation to many - And that is true.

- Lisa

His participation sounds fairly indirect then.  We might as well be celebrating the shipbuilders who enabled the voyage(s) to happen in the first place.

But even if we suppose he was somehow singularly instrumental in the spread of Catholic belief, why should there be a secular federal holiday for this?
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