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Author Topic: Benedict XVI and Gloria Olivae  (Read 2398 times)
QuisUtDeus
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 11:14:AM »

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I wouldn't say the prophesies of St. Malachy are a fraud for sure, but there could be some foul play at hand.  I'd like to think that they are authentic, but that is just my personal opinion.

Yes, the "offering of an olive branch" to the SSPX and soon the Traditional Anglican Communion could very well be seen as a fulfillment of the "Glory of the Olives" prophesy.  But, there could still be a more profound fulfillment of this prophesy in the future, perhaps.  What I would like to see as a fulfillment would be the "offering of an olive branch" to the Traditional religion and the abolishing of error and novelty in the modern Church, and the continued fight against the modernist heresy.

I thought "Glory of the Olive" was already determined to be related to the name Benedict and Mount Olivet.
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Nic
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 11:15:AM »

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Quote from: Nic
I wouldn't say the prophesies of St. Malachy are a fraud for sure, but there could be some foul play at hand.  I'd like to think that they are authentic, but that is just my personal opinion.

Yes, the "offering of an olive branch" to the SSPX and soon the Traditional Anglican Communion could very well be seen as a fulfillment of the "Glory of the Olives" prophesy.  But, there could still be a more profound fulfillment of this prophesy in the future, perhaps.  What I would like to see as a fulfillment would be the "offering of an olive branch" to the Traditional religion and the abolishing of error and novelty in the modern Church, and the continued fight against the modernist heresy.

I thought "Glory of the Olive" was already determined to be related to the name Benedict and Mount Olivet.


Yes, that is true - But, as we have seen in other prophesies, this could be fulfilled on a number of different levels (dual or multi prophetic).
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QuisUtDeus
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 11:21:AM »

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do you take any prophecies seriously dr b?

Eh, doc is prophetic party pooper and has hagiographic hang-ups.  St. John the Baptist would have had his hands full convincing him.  Sticking tongue out at you


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fridayer
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 11:51:AM »

The prophecies may not be from God - they may just be some cute manifestation of one's piety and devotion. But that is not to say that they cannot have real meaning and value to those who choose to use them for good. I wouldn't put it past the Pope.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 03:00:PM »

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were fiddled with are those in the period were it was hidden.


You know not! Like Fatima, La salette,e tc.......some definately due not want a light on them, no...

I am not sure what you are writing here nor, what it means, could you explain?
What do I know not.

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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2009, 03:07:PM »

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Quote from: ggreg
do you take any prophecies seriously dr b?

Eh, doc is prophetic party pooper and has hagiographic hang-ups.  St. John the Baptist would have had his hands full convincing him.  Sticking tongue out at you




I'm sure John the Baptist would've just wacked me upside the head and left me to wallow in my own crapulance.  I'm pretty obstinate.  Shrug

And yes, I do take prophecies seriously.  Fatima, for example.  I also believe Our Lord will come to judge the living and the dead at the end of time, as promised.  I'm sure there are others.  The most important thing about prophecy, however, is to remember the call to personal repentance.  Doesn't matter if the Pope consecrates Russia by name if we ourselves are constantly falling into mortal sin.  If we take care of our own spiritual lives, we have nothing to fear from prophecies, no matter how awful they may be.  

No man knows the day or hour, either of the world's end or our own end.  We need to be constantly ready.  
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2009, 03:28:PM »

Miraculously predicting one's death is rather common in hagiographies.
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2009, 05:36:PM »

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The so-called prophecies of St. Malachy are nothing but a hagiographic fraud.

Iv'e never believed in this either there's too many loop holes.

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