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GuyIncognito
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« on: February 02, 2009, 01:30:AM »
Has anyone given any thought to how St. Malachy's "Gloria Olivae" might pertain, at least in some degree, to the lifting of SSPX excommunications, possible reuniting with traditional Anglicans, and so on, or am I just lacking sleep and grasping at straws?
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2009, 01:42:AM »
The so-called prophecies of St. Malachy are nothing but a hagiographic fraud.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 01:54:AM »
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Has anyone given any thought to how St. Malachy's "Gloria Olivae" might pertain, at least in some degree, to the lifting of SSPX excommunications, possible reuniting with traditional Anglicans, and so on, or am I just lacking sleep and grasping at straws?
I believed it upon his coronation and name-choosing. I even had a premonition that the-then-Cardinal Ratzinger was going to be the next Pope before he was elected. "Olivitans" is another name for the Benedictines, and the Holy Father has made it known that St. Benedict is his namesake. He is the Pope of Peace. And, I believe, that Olivae indicates peace; the olive branch surely does. And Pope Benedict XVI's papal motto is Pax.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 01:54:AM »
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The so-called prophecies of St. Malachy are nothing but a hagiographic fraud.
O ye of little faith?
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 02:11:AM »
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The so-called prophecies of St. Malachy are nothing but a hagiographic fraud.
O ye of little faith?


Doubting the veracity of hagiography of dubious provenance has nothing to do with faith.  
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 02:16:AM »
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The so-called prophecies of St. Malachy are nothing but a hagiographic fraud.
O ye of little faith?
Doubting the veracity of hagiography of dubious provenance has nothing to do with faith.
The Divine Deposit of Faith, no. Faith, yes. And it's origin is more disputed (unjustly) than dubious, but nonetheless it's origin means little compared to the fact of it's existence and it's striking fulfillment or fitness to the Popes. Doubting it's very likely veracity in that sense is just pride.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 08:26:AM »
do you take any prophecies seriously dr b?

If so which ones?
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 10:16:AM »

I think Pope Benedict XVI is the Pope before Peter the Roman. I also think the parts of S.Malachy of Armagh prophecy which were fiddled with are those in the period were it was hidden.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 11:10:AM »
I wouldn't say the prophesies of St. Malachy are a fraud for sure, but there could be some foul play at hand - that is like certain messages being hidden, as seen in the messages of Our Lady of Fatima.  I'd like to think that they are authentic, but that is just my personal opinion.

Yes, the "offering of an olive branch" to the SSPX and soon the Traditional Anglican Communion could very well be seen as a fulfillment of the "Glory of the Olives" prophesy.  But, there could still be a more profound fulfillment of this prophesy in the future, perhaps.  What I would like to see as a fulfillment would be the "offering of an olive branch" to the Traditional religion and the abolishing of error and novelty in the modern Church, and the continued fight (and the eventual destruction) of the modernist heresy.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 11:11:AM »
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were fiddled with are those in the period were it was hidden.


You know not! Like Fatima, La salette,e tc.......some definately due not want a light on them, no...
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