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StevusMagnus
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« on: February 08, 2009, 08:56:PM »


                                http://secretummeummihi.blogspot.com/2009/02/williamsongate_3019.html

At La Reja Seminary they are already thinking of a successor.
 
 Although they say that Williamson is willing to reconsider, it is being speculated upon a replacement
 
 Silvina Premat
 La Nación
 
 The reaffirmation of Richard Williamson's position, disseminated by a German magazine -- Der Spiegel -- took the Argentinian lefebvrist community by surprise. But not so much that prelate's superiors, whom the Pope asked to distance himself from his affirmations on the Holocaust, for him to be re-integrated to the Church, from which he remains (sic) excommunicated since 1988.
 
"The interview with Der Spiegel was arranged with the agreement of his superiors and of his lawyer", told La Nación an unobjectionable source of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pious X, which congregates the followers of the ultra-traditionalist and schismatic Marcel Lefebvre.
 
According to that source, once that Williamson's full interview is made known, "he who for the last few weeks has been presented as a monster will be seen with very different eyes". The bishop, they say, "is willing to reflect" on his opinion and reconsider his point of view.
 
During yesterday's morning, an unusual movement of cassocks caught the attention of the faithful who frequent the 11:30 latin mass in the temple of the La Reja seminary in Moreno, directed by Williamson for the last five years.
 
Priests came from different parts of the country. "Evidently, there must be an important announcement that has to be communicated personally," concluded one of the (mass) participants.
 
But the motive for that extraordinary encounter did not trascend the walls within which some 25 young men will resume their studies in little less than three weeks.
 
Before or after that time, changes in the director of the seminary are expected. His declarations to the Swedish television over the number of Holocaust victims and his denial of the use of gas chambers to assassinate prisoners produced one of Banedict XVI's worst headaches, who is determined to continue the dialogue begun by his predecessor with the Jewish community. Additionally, he jeopardized the Holy See's attempt to re-incorporate Lefebvre's followers to the Church.
 
 Changes
 
Among those close to the Argentinian lefebvrist community it was speculated yesterday with the possibilty that, in substitution for Williamson, Alfonso de Galarreta be designated, who was consecrated bishop by Lefebvre at the same time as the Britisher.
 
Galarreta, current superior of the Autonomous House of Spain, is 52, he was born in Spain but lived in Argentina since childhood. He studied at the La Plata Seminary and afterwards entered the one at Econe, Switzerland. At the La Reja Seminary, he was a professor and director for a few months.
 
Before the ratification of Williamson´s declarations became known, it was speculated that he would not follow the same course as his occasional defender, Father Floriano Abramowicz. That priest, who was responsible for the Italian Northeast, was expelled yesterday from the Fraternity of Saint Pious X for having backed Williamson's affirmations.
 
The situation of the latter was different, so they said here, because in contrast to the italian priest, the british bishop had obeyed the order to refrain from speaking again on the topic. Williamson's expulsion from the Fraternity would have been an unprtecedented extraordinary measure.
 
To this moment it is very common for members to leave the organization on their own as a result of dissidence with the handling of relations with the Vatican, lefebvrists main problem. Indiscipline or autonomy of its members is well tolerated. Or so it used to be until now.
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MeaMaximaCulpa
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 02:30:AM »

Quote from: Bishop Williamson

Eleison Comments LXXXIV

Just before the media uproar of the last two weeks a dear friend asked me to write about any piece of music that I especially liked. It would have to be a piece by Beethoven (1770 – 1827). Then I might single out the first movement of his Third Symphony, known as the “Eroica”, or Heroic Symphony.

Really the whole symphony is heroic. It is the musical portrait of a hero, originally Napoleon, until Beethoven learned that from First Consul of the French Republic he had made himself into an old-style Emperor of the French Empire, whereupon Beethoven ripped out the dedication page to Napoleon and dedicated the symphony instead to a hero. But the music remained unchanged: the revolutionary expression of Beethoven’s ardent hopes for a heroic new age of mankind to emerge from a tired old order of kings and cardinals.

It was however that old order, as expressed by Haydn (1732 – 1809) and Mozart (1756 – 1791) in particular, that gave to Beethoven the musical structures within which to shape and contain his dramatic new emotions. The first movement of the “Eroica” was unprecedentedly long in Beethoven’s own day – over 600 bars, lasting in performance anywhere around a quarter of an hour. Yet from first bar to last, the varied wealth and dynamic force of the musical ideas owe their tight unity and overarching control to the classical sonata form which Beethoven had inherited from the 18th century: Exposition, Development and Recapitulation (ABA), with a Coda mighty enough (innovation of Beethoven) to balance the Development (ABAC).

Leaping into action with two E flat major chords, the hero strides forth with his main theme, the first subject, built solidly out of that chord. The theme goes to war. A valiant re-statement precedes several new ideas of varying rhythms, keys and moods until moments of calm come with the classically more quiet second subject. But war soon returns, with off-beat rhythms and violent struggle, culminating in six hammering chords in two-time cutting right across the movement’s three-time. A few vigorous bars close the Exposition.

Upheavals and calm alternate for the rest of the movement. Notable in the Development is the most tremendous upheaval of all, culminating in a threefold shattering discord of F major with E natural in the brass, out of which mouth of the lion comes the honey of a brand-new lyrical melody, but still striding! Notable in the Coda is the fourfold repetition of the hero’s triumphant main theme, climaxing with inexorable logic in a blaze of glory. Lord, grant us heroes of the Faith, heroes both tender and valiant, heroes of the Church! Kyrie eleison.

La Reja, Argentina (where, I might note, His Excellency is neither dead, dying, nor retired. - Ed.)

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Marisa
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 06:22:AM »

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/

Monday, February 09, 2009

                           

          Confirmed by SSPX South America District Superior:
 Williamson removed          

                           
In an e-mail message sent to the most prestigious Argentinian daily, La Nación (Monday edition), the superior for the South American District of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX), Father Christian Bouchacourt, confirmed that Bishop Richard Williamson "was removed from his charge as head of the seminary" of Nuestra Señora Corredentora of La Reja (Province of Buenos Aires, Argentina).

The name of Williamson's successor as director of the seminary was not mentioned by Bouchacourt, though rumors indicate that it could be Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta, a Spaniard raised in Argentina, currently living in Madrid.

Related: Der Spiegel interviews Bishop Williamson (in English), including a comment with which all reasonable observers will agree: "Apparently Germany's leftist Catholicism has not yet forgiven Ratzinger for becoming pope."


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Marisa
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 07:48:AM »

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/

             
Confirmed:
Williamson removed

         
                 
   
     
UPDATE (1200 GMT): The official news agency of the SSPX, DICI, has now confirmed the following:
Bishop Williamson, as he declared in his interview [to Der Spiegel] does not wish to "hurt in any way the work of the Fraternity"; that is why he accepted, on January 31, the decision of the Superior General [Bishop Fellay] to relieve him of his position as director of the Seminary of La Reja (Argentina). [In French: DICI - permanent link]
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maldon
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2009, 08:43:AM »

Bishop Fellay is turning into a living example of how an administrator should operate, and I hope the pope pays attention. Regardles of one's opinion concerning Fellay's decisions, the man acts swiftly and decisively. When this is all over, I hope the man gets a red hat.

And I still find that Bishop Williamson is behaving like a true bishop and a true gentleman.
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Bonifacio
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 01:04:PM »

This is sad news indeed. Let us pray for the good of the Church, of the Society and of H.E. Bishop Williamson.
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AgnusDei1989
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 04:05:PM »

Quote from: Marisa

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/

Confirmed:
Williamson removed

UPDATE (1200 GMT): The official news agency of the SSPX, DICI, has now confirmed the following:
Bishop Williamson, as he declared in his interview [to Der Spiegel] does not wish to "hurt in any way the work of the Fraternity"; that is why he accepted, on January 31, the decision of the Superior General [Bishop Fellay] to relieve him of his position as director of the Seminary of La Reja (Argentina). [In French: DICI - permanent link]

Oh, no!

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Rex_Tremendae
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2009, 04:22:PM »

Take it easy guys...

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