Why isn't fish considered a meat?

[JoeVoxxPop]

Just forget it...I cant belive some here are so uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries, willing to to just jettison it without a thought. In my houshold, there is no meat on Friday (and wed during lent) period. It is not Catholic to eat meat on Friday period. Im not gonna go further and become angry by some modernist novelties being called binding.

[Rosarium]

Just forget it...I cant belive some here are so uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries, willing to to just jettison it without a thought. In my houshold, there is no meat on Friday (and wed during lent) period. It is not Catholic to eat meat on Friday period. Im not gonna go further and become angry by some modernist novelties being called binding.

No one here is saying we should eat meat on Fridays. We/They are just exploring the custom. 

The reason why people don't eat meat on Fridays goes beyond the simple reasoning to a more profound obedience of the Church and respect for the Church, rather than there being anything wrong with meat.

Also, this thread is about the fish definition.

[Credo]

Just forget it...I cant belive some here are so uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries, willing to to just jettison it without a thought.

Just because something is no longer binding under pain of sin doesn't mean that those of us who bring this point up are, "uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries."

I actually think that fasting from meat on Friday's throughout the year is more special to God now that we can give it up out of love more than out of obligation.

[StrictCatholicGirl]

Just forget it...I cant belive some here are so uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries, willing to to just jettison it without a thought. In my houshold, there is no meat on Friday (and wed during lent) period. It is not Catholic to eat meat on Friday period. Im not gonna go further and become angry by some modernist novelties being called binding.

Nobody is "uncaring." We're giving you facts. Remember the quote from our Lord: "Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." The laws of fasting and abstinence were made for Catholics, not the other way around. Since these laws are created by churchmen in the first place, then those in authority can revise them, abolish them, or add to them and make them even stricter. The Church has the right to make those decisions. She's been revising disciplinary laws, binding and loosing, for 2,000 years. That's not a "novelty."

Of course, we can certainly stick to the traditional fast if we choose. And we can hold the opinion that fasting and abstinence laws shouldn't change. But we can't say they can't change. Two different things there.

 

- Lisa

[Spooky]

Interesting tidbit: capybara's are not considered meat and therefore acceptable for eating on Friday. I think I'll stick with fish sticks or mac & cheese.

[JoeVoxxPop]

Just forget it...I cant belive some here are so uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries, willing to to just jettison it without a thought. In my houshold, there is no meat on Friday (and wed during lent) period. It is not Catholic to eat meat on Friday period. Im not gonna go further and become angry by some modernist novelties being called binding.

Nobody is "uncaring." We're giving you facts. Remember the quote from our Lord: "Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." The laws of fasting and abstinence were made for Catholics, not the other way around. Since these laws are created by churchmen in the first place, then those in authority can revise them, abolish them, or add to them and make them even stricter. The Church has the right to make those decisions. She's been revising disciplinary laws, binding and loosing, for 2,000 years. That's not a "novelty."

Of course, we can certainly stick to the traditional fast if we choose. And we can hold the opinion that fasting and abstinence laws shouldn't change. But we can't say they can't change. Two different things there.

 

- Lisa

My point is that it WASNT Changed...its another novelty trick...and apparently you bought it.

[JoeVoxxPop]

Just forget it...I cant believe some here are so uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries, willing to to just jettison it without a thought.

Just because something is no longer binding under pain of sin doesn't mean that those of us who bring this point up are, "uncaring about something that defined us in unity for centuries."

I actually think that fasting from meat on Friday's throughout the year is more special to God now that we can give it up out of love more than out of obligation.

Show me where it was abrogated?
And your argument about it being better to be done out of love then obligation is true but naive and shows a lack of understanding of the true nature of most Sinners (like myself) and was the very argument the MODERNISTS used to place another false catholic facade to confuse the laity, and suck up to the world. My Holy Mother Church makes things obligatory out of Love and empathy with the true nature of her children, not the pie in the sky piety of the Utopian revolutionaries. I say abstaining because of Obedience to the Church and out of Love and penance is Better THEN JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO (highlighting not shouting)IMO

[Texican]

During lent, I do know people that fast as muslims do, not eating during the day. Is this an acceptable substitute?

I hope so.  But I still don't eat meat on Fridays.  Or Wednesdays and Saturdays during Lent.

[Hotspurcantresistposting]

For reference: http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/apologia/vpost?id=2459111&highlight=carne+fish

[Credo]

Show me where it was abrogated?

I linked to Jimmy Akin's blog before. You will find a much deeper discussion there, with cited materials.

The consensus seems to be that in law for Christians in the United States is sufficiently wishy-washy to dispense the obligation.