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Rosarium
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« on: May 09, 2009, 03:17:PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090509/lf_afp/polandswedenfrancegermanyhistoryjewswwii_20090509160105

If you read it, it says "Jews" many times, and then at the end stresses that the Jewish deaths and persecutions and glosses over everyone else. However, the people on the paper were 5/6th Catholic, yet they barely acknowledge that.

Sometimes I think there is a conspiracy...
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Melita
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 03:54:PM »
Propaganda, pure and simple. But the day will come when it's revealed as such. I don't really think it's a systematic conspiracy, but the Holocaust has taken on such legendary proportions that any new addition to the mythology will be difficult. Brushing the truth under the carpet only works for a short time. It's not as though WW2 happened all that long ago (my grandfather remembers it).
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“I am a Catholic not like someone else would be a Baptist or a Methodist, but like someone else would be an atheist.”  - Flannery O'Connor

Then again I asked him, "supposing the Pope looked up and saw a cloud and said 'It's going to rain', would that be bound to happen?"
"Oh, yes, Father."
"But supposing it didn't?"
He thought a moment and said, "I suppose it would be sort of raining spiritually, only we were too sinful to see it."
Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited
Rosarium
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 04:29:PM »
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Propaganda, pure and simple. But the day will come when it's revealed as such. I don't really think it's a systematic conspiracy, but the Holocaust has taken on such legendary proportions that any new addition to the mythology will be difficult. Brushing the truth under the carpet only works for a short time. It's not as though WW2 happened all that long ago (my grandfather remembers it).

My grandfather was in it, with medals. He died recently.
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Melita
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 04:53:PM »
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Propaganda, pure and simple. But the day will come when it's revealed as such. I don't really think it's a systematic conspiracy, but the Holocaust has taken on such legendary proportions that any new addition to the mythology will be difficult. Brushing the truth under the carpet only works for a short time. It's not as though WW2 happened all that long ago (my grandfather remembers it).

My grandfather was in it, with medals. He died recently.

I'm sorry to hear that. I think everybody has/had a grandparent who lived through the War; their stories should be treasured.
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“I am a Catholic not like someone else would be a Baptist or a Methodist, but like someone else would be an atheist.”  - Flannery O'Connor

Then again I asked him, "supposing the Pope looked up and saw a cloud and said 'It's going to rain', would that be bound to happen?"
"Oh, yes, Father."
"But supposing it didn't?"
He thought a moment and said, "I suppose it would be sort of raining spiritually, only we were too sinful to see it."
Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2009, 01:20:PM »
My father was a tank destroyer commander in the big one. He wouldn't say much about it. His unit was one of the few that fought in all three theatres; Africa, Europe, and South Pacific. He's gone and I am not sure if I want all the information about him that I can get. R.I.P. PaPa.
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Melita
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2009, 01:26:PM »
 Pray I'm sure he experienced some difficult things.

My grandfather was in the British navy, stationed here. Malta had a very hard time during the Second World War and it's definitely become part of our identity. Some people can't talk about what they went through, but even then, their sacrifices shouldn't be forgotten.
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“I am a Catholic not like someone else would be a Baptist or a Methodist, but like someone else would be an atheist.”  - Flannery O'Connor

Then again I asked him, "supposing the Pope looked up and saw a cloud and said 'It's going to rain', would that be bound to happen?"
"Oh, yes, Father."
"But supposing it didn't?"
He thought a moment and said, "I suppose it would be sort of raining spiritually, only we were too sinful to see it."
Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 12:45:PM »
Both of my grandfathers fought in World War II (in Europe). The one that I used to live with (Bop Bop) never talked about it, while the other one, whom I would visit in Florida (Papa Duck), would sometimes tell us about his experience (he was in the Battle of the Bulge). One thing that's always stuck out in my mind is Papa Duck telling me how all of the soldiers were just kids (17-18) at the time, and they really didn't hate each other. They did what they had to do to survive and come home alive.
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"It preaches that not only in civil affairs, which is not Our concern here, but also in religion, God has given every individual a wide freedom to embrace and adopt without danger to his salvation whatever sect or opinion appeals to him on the basis of his private judgment.  The apostle Paul warns us against the impiety of these madmen" (Pope Leo XII, Ubi Primum, n. 12).

"Likewise, peace is rooted in respect for religious freedom, which is a fundamental and primordial aspect of the freedom of conscience of individuals and of the freedom of peoples.  It is important that everywhere in the world every person can belong to the religion of his choice and practise it freely without fear" (Pope Benedict XVI, Address to Five New Ambassadors, 18 May 2006).
Rosarium
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 12:48:PM »
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Both of my grandfathers fought in World War II (in Europe). The one that I used to live with (Bop Bop) never talked about it, while the other one, whom I would visit in Florida (Papa Duck), would sometimes tell us about his experience (he was in the Battle of the Bulge).

My grandfather (mentioned above) was also in the Battle of the Bulge.
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