devotedknuckles
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« Reply #600 on: April 17, 2011, 08:24:AM » |
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Ecos an academci and I doubt he would be fighting much for anybody. If u like ecos work u would love te Robarts library uoft
Eco was obsessed with the aufull brutakiat struture and used it as a te platefor his medeavel library in the name of the rose
Orwell was a commie. Who did to to Spain to fight for rhe trotskist POUM
i wouldn't argue huxly is responsible for the 60s. It's rather the other way the collapse od morailty and Christendom long eclipse in the west isnrepsonsible for him
WWII played the largest rolie. Though the allies won that cataclysm bleed hwr dry of upright men and exhausted the ones who survived
anyhoooooo
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« Reply #601 on: April 17, 2011, 09:02:AM » |
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The Kindly Ones sounds depressing.
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« Reply #602 on: April 17, 2011, 10:36:AM » |
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Sonny Barger is an interesting choice.
You mean the leader of the Hells Angels? Never new he wrote a book, should be a good one I bet. I read Hunter Thompson's Hells Angels years ago, I thought it was alright. If you want a good read on bikers pick up a book called Street Justice by Chuck Zito, leader of the NY chapter of the HA's, he does a good job of describing his expierences in the world of the outlaw bikers without ratting anybody out in particular, he also talks about kicking Jean Claude Van Damme's ass in bar that was big news years ago, it's a good read. |
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To defend oneself, one must also be ready to die. There is little such readiness in a society raised in the cult of material well-being. Nothing is left, then, but concessions, attempts to gain time, and betrayal.
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"Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it."
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In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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There is no limit to investigating the truth; until you discover it.
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« Reply #603 on: April 17, 2011, 02:26:PM » |
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interesting wht you say D.K - yesHuxley was the product even victim of not just the collapsing west but also his own scientific culture ( his family were famous scientists)
Orwell was just our enemy pure and simple - he was a dying man when he wrote 1984 and I dont take it as this great truth document interesting though it is.
The Republicans he fought with - yes it was POUM i think he was with - murdered thousands of priests and nuns in Spain.He was shot through the throat at Huesca. Perhaps + B. W .would have been advised to check Orwell's red terror background first before praising 1984.
Genius - nope, there's not a lot of laughs in ' the kindly ones.' - most of it is about extermination camps, mass shootings, and the increasing corruption of one mans soul. There is an intriguing part where he meets two ' controllers ' the hidden power behind the Third Reich who as it collapses tell him that as Germany has failed because she is weak they are now moving to the stronger power. Soviet Russia, at Stalin's invitation to carry on building the New World Order with him. Makes you think abt whats going on now.
Life and Fate by Grossman is another great novel about battle for Stalingrad from Russian angle.
Speaking personally I find a kind of weird consolation in fiction like this based on facts hwoever terrible.
What I find truly v. depressing in UK booksshops is the row after row of books abt. sad middle aged women having affairs with French waiters, juvenile Brit comedy books that make nobody laugh, Oprah W self dev crap, somebody called Jodi Picoult who writes abt cops (?) and gay marriage, .......
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« Reply #604 on: April 17, 2011, 02:45:PM » |
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I quite like Umberto Eco, but again I don't like him as a person from what I have read, he is either a lapsed Catholic or anti-Catholic, and is the kind of person ,I can imagine, fighting for the republicans in Spain against General Franco.
he is very much a secular kind of guy for all his brilliance, and I don't like the message of the 'Name of the Rose', even though it is a great read, which is that if you want to search for the truth, you are basically insane. I wonder if that was the appeal of it to so many people today.
You're right: he is a lapser/atheist. I've never read any of his novels, but he's a rather good semiotician and linguist, I believe. I just bought my first Flannery O'Connor book the other day at Half Price Books. I'll likely start the FO book tomorrow.
Yay! Which book is it? I hope it's one of her short story collections (I've never been the biggest fan of her novels). I'm always glad when someone takes up Flannery. Be prepared to fall in love. Right now I'm reading Ann Radcliffe's The Mysteries of Udolpho for a seminar tomorrow. It's entertaining. |
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« Reply #605 on: April 18, 2011, 12:21:PM » |
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« Reply #606 on: April 19, 2011, 12:55:AM » |
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The Chase by Clive Cussler
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« Reply #607 on: April 19, 2011, 02:14:AM » |
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Sonny Barger is an interesting choice.
You mean the leader of the Hells Angels? Never new he wrote a book, should be a good one I bet. I read Hunter Thompson's Hells Angels years ago, I thought it was alright. If you want a good read on bikers pick up a book called Street Justice by Chuck Zito, leader of the NY chapter of the HA's, he does a good job of describing his expierences in the world of the outlaw bikers without ratting anybody out in particular, he also talks about kicking Jean Claude Van Damme's ass in bar that was big news years ago, it's a good read. Seagal beat up Van Damme, too. Which begs the question: who can Van Damme beat? |
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« Reply #608 on: April 19, 2011, 03:17:AM » |
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Van Damme is a film star, not really much of a martial artist. I believe he did train in shotokan prior to his film career, not sure how far he progressed. Funnily enough, it reminds me of how Jackie Chan had absolutely no martial arts training prior to his film career but instead drew on his experience with the Chinese acrobatic circus. Chan has since become a highly accomplished martial artist...
Seagal is an incredible martial artist, holding an unprecedented status within aikido for a Westerner.
Anybody else remember back in '06 or so Van Damme was talking about competing in K1 Kickboxing? Never happened in the end, but it would have been entertaining to watch - I think he'd have to have been at least 40 by then... and he's no Ernesto Hoost!
Alaric, was Hunter S Thompson's book good? I have been meaning to borrow it from the old man and read it for myself.
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It is my solemn and firmly held belief that the Cristeros were an entirely unjustified group of egomaniacal sociopaths and that Mexico would be a far better place today had they simply purchased Xbox360 consoles and lived out their ridiculous fantasies via an imaginary fantasy gaming realm Forget your lust for the rich man's gold/ All that you need, is in your soul/ And you can do this, oh baby, if you try/ All that I want for you my son/ Is to be satisfied All that we are is a picture in a mirror, with fancy shoes to grace our feet. All that there is, is a slow road to freedom; Heaven above and the devil beneath. We're all in this thing together, walking a line between faith and fear, this life won't last forever - when you cry I taste the salt in your tears. |
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« Reply #609 on: April 19, 2011, 07:05:AM » |
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Interesting fact about Chan.
Seagal is overated. I think his status in aikido is due to being a smooth talker. I wouldn't mind going up against him.
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