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« Reply #1170 on: February 16, 2012, 03:11:PM » |
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It's from Responsio ad Lutherum. Here is a translation of the full text, I could not fit it all in my signature: Come, do not rage so violently, good father; but if you have raved wildly enough, listen now, you pimp. You recall that you falsely complained above that the king has shown no passage in your whole book, even as an example, in which he said that you contradict yourself. You told this lie shortly before, although the king has demonstrated to you many examples of your inconsistency ....
But meanwhile, for as long as your reverend paternity will be determined to tell these shameless lies, others will be permitted, on behalf of his English majesty, to throw back into your paternity's sh**ty mouth, truly the sh**-pool of all sh**, all the muck and sh** which your damnable rottenness has vomited up, and to empty out all the sewers and privies onto your crown divested of the dignity of the priestly crown, against which no less than against the kingly crown you have determined to play the buffoon.
In your sense of fairness, honest reader, you will forgive me that the utterly filthy words of this scoundrel have forced me to answer such things, for which I should have begged your leave. Now I consider truer than truth that saying: 'He who touches pitch will be wholly defiled by it' (Sirach 13:1). For I am ashamed even of this necessity, that while I clean out the fellow's sh**-filled mouth I see my own fingers covered with sh**.
But who can endure such a scoundrel who shows himself possessed by a thousand vices and tormented by a legion of demons, and yet stupidly boasts thus: 'The holy fathers have all erred. The whole church has often erred. My teaching cannot err, because I am most certain that my teaching is not my own but Christ's,' alluding of course to those words of Christ, 'My words are not my own but His who sent me, the Father's' Wow. Just wow. I've just finished The Mysterious Affair at Styles and I'm working on The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest. With three kids at home, though, getting quiet time to read is difficult... 
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"And so, Lord, do you, who do give understanding to faith, give me, so far as you knowest it to be profitable, to understand that you are as we believe; and that you are that which we believe." -- St. Anselm of Canterbury (1033-1109)
"But Christianity preaches an obviously unattractive idea, such as original sin; but when we wait for its results, they are pathos and brotherhood, and a thunder of laughter and pity; for only with original sin we can at once pity the beggar and distrust the king." -- G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." Baudelaire and Verbal Kint from The Usual Suspects
"I'm a practicing Catholic; I'm practicing until I get it right." Martin Sheen
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« Reply #1171 on: February 16, 2012, 03:12:PM » |
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Just finished Moby Dick by Herman Melville. Now I've started reading The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald.
How'd you like the sections on whaling? I always thought they sounded like commercials...
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"And so, Lord, do you, who do give understanding to faith, give me, so far as you knowest it to be profitable, to understand that you are as we believe; and that you are that which we believe." -- St. Anselm of Canterbury (1033-1109)
"But Christianity preaches an obviously unattractive idea, such as original sin; but when we wait for its results, they are pathos and brotherhood, and a thunder of laughter and pity; for only with original sin we can at once pity the beggar and distrust the king." -- G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." Baudelaire and Verbal Kint from The Usual Suspects
"I'm a practicing Catholic; I'm practicing until I get it right." Martin Sheen
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« Reply #1172 on: February 16, 2012, 03:14:PM » |
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The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest
Did you read the first two? The mom I babysit for lent them to (forced them on) me but I have yet to crack them open. I was going to return them with vague comments but I forgot the last time I was there.
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« Reply #1173 on: February 16, 2012, 03:19:PM » |
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The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest
Did you read the first two? The mom I babysit for lent them to (forced them on) me but I have yet to crack them open. I was going to return them with vague comments but I forgot the last time I was there. Yes, I've read the first two. Be warned: the subject matter is rather brutal and sexual. Overall, I prefer the first one to the second and third novels.
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"And so, Lord, do you, who do give understanding to faith, give me, so far as you knowest it to be profitable, to understand that you are as we believe; and that you are that which we believe." -- St. Anselm of Canterbury (1033-1109)
"But Christianity preaches an obviously unattractive idea, such as original sin; but when we wait for its results, they are pathos and brotherhood, and a thunder of laughter and pity; for only with original sin we can at once pity the beggar and distrust the king." -- G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." Baudelaire and Verbal Kint from The Usual Suspects
"I'm a practicing Catholic; I'm practicing until I get it right." Martin Sheen
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« Reply #1174 on: February 16, 2012, 03:24:PM » |
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The Pure Theory of Politics by Bertrand de Jouvenel
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« Reply #1175 on: February 17, 2012, 04:20:PM » |
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Just finished Moby Dick by Herman Melville. Now I've started reading The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald.
I love The Great Gatsby.  I'm listening to Silas Marner, by George Eliot, and Orley Farm, by Anthony Trollope. I think I've pretty much exhausted Thomas Hardy's works (except Jude the Obscure), and Dickens was finished long ago, so I'm forced to resort to Trollope. I have to say, Mith, I'm glad that my professors didn't give us that particular work of St. Thomas More's to study when I was in college! The school was named for him, so we studied him with a special emphasis. I would have been absolutely shocked, sheltered as I was. Now that I'm a few years older, I really enjoy the thought of More so completely crushing Luther's arguments while also making him fall in others' esteem. 
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« Reply #1176 on: February 17, 2012, 07:09:PM » |
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« Reply #1177 on: February 17, 2012, 09:44:PM » |
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I have to say, Mith, I'm glad that my professors didn't give us that particular work of St. Thomas More's to study when I was in college! The school was named for him, so we studied him with a special emphasis. I would have been absolutely shocked, sheltered as I was. Now that I'm a few years older, I really enjoy the thought of More so completely crushing Luther's arguments while also making him fall in others' esteem.  I teach a lot of evangelical Protestants in my school. It's always an eye-opener for them to read Luther, especially his views on free will (most of which modern Protestantism has essentially disowned...).
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"And so, Lord, do you, who do give understanding to faith, give me, so far as you knowest it to be profitable, to understand that you are as we believe; and that you are that which we believe." -- St. Anselm of Canterbury (1033-1109)
"But Christianity preaches an obviously unattractive idea, such as original sin; but when we wait for its results, they are pathos and brotherhood, and a thunder of laughter and pity; for only with original sin we can at once pity the beggar and distrust the king." -- G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." Baudelaire and Verbal Kint from The Usual Suspects
"I'm a practicing Catholic; I'm practicing until I get it right." Martin Sheen
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« Reply #1178 on: February 18, 2012, 02:43:AM » |
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Next: Saint Silouan the Athonite by Archimandrite Sophrony Nohow On: Company, Ill Seen Ill Said, Worstward Ho: Three Novels by Samuel Beckett Memoirs of my Nervous Illness by Daniel Paul Schreber
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« Reply #1179 on: February 18, 2012, 05:24:AM » |
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What is your opinion on this book?
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