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AntoniusMaximus
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« on: October 11, 2009, 07:21:PM »

Like I know the Pope makes the final choice, but what are some of the things considered?

Like I know ideally they should be holy and orthodox (but you know that hasn't always been the case), I take it there is a committee that makes the suggestions to the Curia who in turn brings it to the Pope.  What are some of the qualities they look, like I have heard that some people become bishop because they are good at fundraising or have political connections.  Also, I see that some Sees have been vacant for quite a while

I ask because my diocese (of Austin) is currently bishopless as the previous Bishop has been an installed as Archbishop of New Orleans, and well my priest explained what happens while there is no Bishop.  However, I just wonder how is a bishop selected, like I see some bishops get moved from smaller dioceses to larger ones (Archbishop Dolan is a recently example going from Milwaukee to New York).  I am assume it is rare that a lowly parish priest is appointed Bishop, like I have heard like if the bishop asks you to study Canon Law, you are essentially in line for higher promotions.  While I have heard that if you are appointed to a military chaplaincy that is like the ecclesiatical version of Siberia for priests.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 07:52:PM »

Based on my observations of the Bishop's plaque in the cathedral in Scranton, many Bishops were assistants to a previous Bishop at one point. 

I'm sure there are exceptions and a bit of politics, but it seems it depends on their pastoral reputation and prior positions held.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2009, 10:09:PM »

http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Sep2002/Wiseman.asp

Q: How are bishops appointed in the  United States? Does this vary from other parts of the world? Are Roman Catholic bishops appointed the same way as Eastern Catholic bishops?

A: The 178 Latin-rite dioceses and archdioceses in the United States are grouped into 31 ecclesiastical provinces. In most cases these include a single state; a few include several states. Only California has two archdioceses (Los Angeles and San Francisco).

Periodically, the bishops in an ecclesiastical province meet to suggest names of priests who could be appointed bishop. They discuss the men proposed and pass their assessment on to the nuncio, the pope’s representative in Washington, D.C. The nuncio sends a questionnaire to people who know these priests well, asking for assessments in several categories.

When the head of a diocese requests an auxiliary bishop, he draws up a list of three names (not limited to priests already suggested), rates them and sends them to the nuncio.

When a bishop is needed to head a diocese, the nuncio consults with the bishops of the ecclesiastical province to which that diocese belongs, with the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (who has a three-year term) and with others as the nuncio wishes.

In time, he will send three names (and his evaluation of each) to the Congregation of Bishops in Rome. That congregation has bishop-members, appointed by the pope, who meet almost weekly—except during the summer. The members study the recommendations already made and submit their preferred candidate and two alternate candidates to the pope, who is free to ask the congregation to consider other candidates and propose other names. In the end, the pope makes the choice.

In countries under the jurisdiction of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, that congregation enters into the process. The same is true for areas under the jurisdiction of the Congregation for Eastern Churches. In a few cases, the Holy See’s Secretariat of State is involved.

The procedure followed in the United States is basically the same one followed in other parts of the world now. In a few European dioceses, the cathedral chapter (a group of priests from the diocese) has the right to propose three names as head of the diocese, but the final choice is still made by the pope.

In the 19th and 20th centuries, certain governments had concordats (treaties) with the Holy See, giving those governments a role in appointing bishops. In most cases, more recent concordats have cancelled that role. In some countries, the pope’s representative is called an apostolic delegate because the Holy See and that country do not have formal diplomatic relations. In that case, the apostolic delegate does the nuncio’s work described above.

In some Eastern Catholic Churches, a bishop is elected by its synod of bishops; the pope then expresses his approval by expressing “ecclesial communion” with the new bishop.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 07:38:AM »

The power of a bishop means two distinct power:

- the sacramental power received by the ordination

- the jurisdictional power received by the investiture

Not all ordained bishop have actual jurisdictional power, although all of them ordained to a diocese, most originally get an recently not existing diocese from the past, and promoted to an other receiving jurisdictional power.

Originally bishops were appointed by the Apostles, later the nomination was mixed by popular election, beginning of the second millennium, the right for nomination was claimed by the Apostolic Kings (e.g. France and Hungary). The ordination always required Apostolic succession (only rightfully ordained bishop can ordain new bishops) and in the Roman Church the power behind the investiture was retained to the Apostolic See .

The recent use is that the national conferences of the bishops recommend individuals for ordination, and they are ordained after the approval of the Holy See. Since the seventies at age 75 each bishop should offer his resignation to the Holy See, and the Holy See keeps him, or appoints someone else to his diocese.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 06:59:PM »

Tobri's answer sounds correct to me, based on my observations and also on a conversation I once had with a bishop.

AntoniusMaximus, I think you're correct in assuming that a "lowly parish priest" will not be promoted immediately to become your new bishop.  The more usual process is that the lowly parish priest becomes an auxiliary bishop first, and, maybe, later on, an ordinary.  I suspect that your diocese will get someone who is a bishop already, either an auxiliary bishop or the ordinary of a smaller diocese.

A doctoral degree is definitely a plus when qualifications are considered.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 08:51:PM »

Tobri's answer sounds correct to me, based on my observations and also on a conversation I once had with a bishop.

AntoniusMaximus, I think you're correct in assuming that a "lowly parish priest" will not be promoted immediately to become your new bishop.  The more usual process is that the lowly parish priest becomes an auxiliary bishop first, and, maybe, later on, an ordinary.  I suspect that your diocese will get someone who is a bishop already, either an auxiliary bishop or the ordinary of a smaller diocese.

A doctoral degree is definitely a plus when qualifications are considered.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but under the current Canon Law, isn't having a doctoral or other advanced degree a requirement to become a bishop?
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 09:07:PM »


[/quote] Correct me if I'm wrong, but under the current Canon Law, isn't having a doctoral or other advanced degree a requirement to become a bishop?
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You are close.  Canon 378 lists five requirements for a candidate for the episcopacy.  He must be (here I quote from the Code of Canon Law):

"1. outstanding for his solid faith, good morals, piety, zeal for souls, wisdom, prudence and human virtues and endowed with the other talents which make him fit to fulfill the office in question;

2. in possession of a good reputation;

3. at least thirty-five years of age;

4. ordained a priest for at least five years;

5. in possession of a doctorate or at least a licentiate in sacred scripture, theology, or canon law from an institute of higher studies approved by the Apostolic See, or, at least, truly expert in these same disciplines."

As you can see, the doctorate does not seem to be an absolute.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2009, 03:43:PM »

It's too bad that one has to be 35 to be a bishop. I have a ways to go before I can pursue my vocation to the episcopate.
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