The Catechism of the Catholic Church

[Plain Catholic]

The Life in Christ section of the Catechism is like a retreat for growing more like Christ. We were talking about this one section, in particular

CCC 2481 Boasting or bragging is an offense against truth. So is irony aimed at disparaging someone by maliciously caricaturing some aspect of his behavior.

We asked our priest and he said that the irony referenced in the Catechism speaks of sarcasm. Then I started to notice how much sarcasm is used on the street, in the parish, and just in general conversation. Everyone is guilty of it and I wonder how many people realize the Catechism calls it an offense?

[Plain Catholic]

PS: If you don't have a copy of the Catechism you can read it at the Vatican website
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

[Rosarium]

Maliciously doing anything is a sin.

[WhollyRoaminCatholic]

Whatever you say. 

[ecclesiastes]

Then I started to notice how much sarcasm is used on the street, in the parish

and on catholicforum.fisheaters.com?

[CaoimhinPConnell]

Rosarium stated:
Maliciously doing anything is a sin.

Agreed.  However, as a forensic scientist, I very frequently use various devices and instruments of argument to develop and articulate positions.  This has long troubled me – are there “rules of engagement” that are out-of-bounds, even though there is no malice.  For example, sometimes sarcasm (and reductions to absurdity, adopting the “devil’s” advocate, etc) are legitimate devices needed to shed light on some part of an argument. 

Ad hominem is of course never acceptable, however, goading, tongue-in-cheek and laying traps (or open doors)  can sometimes be useful and beneficial.  At what point does the use of articulated devices become sinful if there is no malice?  Further, can one make a case for/against noble corruption even in the pursuit of truth?

(And because of the probability that some atty will wave this post before me in court, I need to start using my usual disclaimer at the bottom.. sorry).

Cheers!
Caoimhín P. Connell

(The opinions expressed here are exclusively my personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect my professional opinion, opinion of my employer, agency, peers, or professional affiliates.  The above post is for information only and does not reflect professional advice and is not intended to supercede the professional advice of others.)

AMDG

[Virgil the Roman]

Hey Plain, it'd be best if you did yourself a huge favour: Acquire a "Roman Catechism;" it's a heck of a lot more clearer the the "Catechism of the Catholic Church."

[Plain Catholic]

Hey Plain, it'd be best if you did yourself a huge favour: Acquire a "Roman Catechism;" it's a heck of a lot more clearer the the "Catechism of the Catholic Church."

The Catechism of the Catholic Church is the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church which was coordinated by Cardinal Ratzinger who is now our Pope Benedict XVI. We have no problems with its clarity. However if one needs to use the Roman Catechism, you can find sins of speech against charity there as well.

[Scipio_a]

LOL


Rosarium answered your question...WRC did a good job too

[tradmaverick]

Hey Plain, it'd be best if you did yourself a huge favour: Acquire a "Roman Catechism;" it's a heck of a lot more clearer the the "Catechism of the Catholic Church."

The Catechism of the Catholic Church is the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church which was coordinated by Cardinal Ratzinger who is now our Pope Benedict XVI. We have no problems with its clarity. However if one needs to use the Roman Catechism, you can find sins of speech against charity there as well.

You do know this a traditional Catholic forum right? (hint hint nudge nudge)