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JayneK
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2009, 11:49:AM »
Quote from: Rosarium
Mea navis aëricumbens anguillis abundat

Even for a non sequitor that was remarkably not sequitor.  LOL

Tamen Monty Python semper aptus est.

Anyhow, thanks.  I did have fun translating it, especially "aericumbens" since it wasn't in my dictionary.  I got as far as "navis aericumbens" must mean "ship reclining on air" on my own, but had to google to get "hovercraft".
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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2009, 12:04:PM »
Quote from: ASD
missa est   
 it is dismissed, sent         

I suggest translating this "it has been dismissed, sent" to avoid confusion with "mittor" the  present passive form which is translated "it is dismissed, sent."

Even though perfect passives combine the past particple with the present tense of "sum" they should not be translated with present tense of "to be".  Use the perfect "was" or "has been".
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2009, 12:49:PM »
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Quote from: ASD
missa est   
 it is dismissed, sent         

I suggest translating this "it has been dismissed, sent" to avoid confusion with "mittor" the  present passive form which is translated "it is dismissed, sent."

Even though perfect passives combine the past participle with the present tense of "sum" they should not be translated with present tense of "to be".  Use the perfect "was" or "has been".

True.

Mittitur = it is dismissed. (Present tense, passive voice)
Missus est = it was/has been dismissed. (Perfect tense, passive voice)
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2009, 01:37:PM »
Quote from: Vetus Ordo
Mittitur = it is dismissed. (Present tense, passive voice)

Thanks.  I carelessly gave the first person form "mittor" (I was dismissed) when we were discussing a third person construction.  You are quite right that it needs to be "mittitur".
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