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ResiduumRevertetur
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« on: December 30, 2009, 11:05:AM »

For those who have raised teenagers or have teens now, how did you handle dating? What were your rules, expectations, etc. I'm now raising two teenage boys that have started dating (no pointing and laughing from the peanut gallery) and I've shocked even myself by dusting off the word "chaperone". I'm winging it. I'm raising them with a completely different set of values and rules from anyone else I've ever known and anyone else they've ever known. I'm a little bit out of my element here, but I suppose that's normal. Any advice or commiseration?
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 11:15:AM »

Entertained and Safe

I'm coming up behind you...

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which, you know, I don't really get since I just changed his diaper... yesterday, I think it was.

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 11:18:AM »

i dont have much to add here...my oldest is 5. But i would like to see others responses! (Not that I ned it, my kids will be given the choice of either the convent/monastery, or te nice young Catholic man/woman of my choosing!  LOL ) Ill let ya know how that goes!!

Personally I would be ok with "group" dates around 15, 16? Then aloooone dates around 17, 18, but always in a public place.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 11:34:AM »

i dont have much to add here...my oldest is 5. But i would like to see others responses! (Not that I ned it, my kids will be given the choice of either the convent/monastery, or te nice young Catholic man/woman of my choosing!  LOL ) Ill let ya know how that goes!!

Personally I would be ok with "group" dates around 15, 16? Then aloooone dates around 17, 18, but always in a public place.
That's pretty much how it's been here, but you would not believe how other parents will undermine your efforts in this. Incredible!

I've also been impressing on them how important religious compatibility is, but I haven't told them they can't date non-Catholics. I thought it might backfire. Any opinions?
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 11:43:AM »

No idea on that one...I know that the pickins are SLIM where I am...there was MAYBE 3 or 4 guys in our church I wasnt related to, and even then, I was raised so close to them that it was like a brother. Me and my  brother and sisters (and quite a few girls and guys in my church) had to do the conversion route. Marrying a Non Catholic was never an option, if the guy or girl in question didnt convert, we didnt marry them, no matter how much we loved them. I met my husband through some friends of my sister, and it just worked out, he took to it pretty easily, without too much of a fight, and its been the same with all my siblings. If its Gods will, it'll work out for the best. You have to impress upon the kids NOT to fight Gods will, and sometimes, no matter how you feel about that person, if they dont convert, its just not really meant to be. Any love that doesnt come from God isnt a real, pure love.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 11:45:AM »

Any advice or commiseration?

I have three children in their twenties, two in their teens and  two who are yet to be teens.  I have more commiseration than advice, because I am not sure how successful I have been as a parent.  I'll have a better idea of this  in about twenty years.

One thing that I can tell you is that the standards of the world are very messed up in this area and that you should be suspicious of anything that comes from it.  This is one time that it is really important to be counter-cultural.

Try to find some other families with values similar to your own.

Pray a lot.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 01:13:PM »

As an 18 year old guy I'll give my two cents from the opposite perspective here that might help in some way. First off, I attend a public high school and what is considered normal dating here is completely the opposite from what the Church would expect of us. There are few virgins left that will be graduating with me, unfortunately. So most people's (even the Catholics) goal in dating is "hooking up" as they say. NOT just for fun, socializing, and far from finding a spouse or discerning one's vocation in life. Now I pretty much held off on the dating until now because I was attempting to discern whether or not I should enter the seminary after high school. I tried to do both for a while but once a girl I thought was mature said she wanted to sleep with me I thought it best to stop since there obviously were few girls at my school that shared my view on how dating should be. Given this atmosphere at my school- I see little point in dating now to be honest. Most girls are immature, there are few Catholics, the handful of Catholics here are the most liberal you have ever seen. I'd rather wait until I get to the Catholic college next fall when I can actually find mature Catholic women.


I've also been impressing on them how important religious compatibility is, but I haven't told them they can't date non-Catholics. I thought it might backfire. Any opinions?

Ideally I would like to date only Catholic girls but there are so few at my school that isn't really an option. The girls at my SSPX chapel are almost guarded by their fathers (who must have all entered the strong man competition last year together or something)  so striking up a conversation isn't easy. The girl I am courting at the moment isn't Catholic but I'm not looking to marry the lass or anything. Although it has presented some obstacles already- The Faith is the most important aspect of my life and if a girl doesn't understand it how can she possible begin to understand me?

For those who have raised teenagers or have teens now, how did you handle dating? What were your rules, expectations, etc. I'm now raising two teenage boys that have started dating (no pointing and laughing from the peanut gallery) and I've shocked even myself by dusting off the word "chaperone". I'm winging it. I'm raising them with a completely different set of values and rules from anyone else I've ever known and anyone else they've ever known. I'm a little bit out of my element here, but I suppose that's normal. Any advice or commiseration?

Let me just say that my own mother (not Catholic) has pushed me to date girls to a point that seems absurd. Even more so when I was attempting to discern whether or not I should enter the seminary after high school. She was completely opposed to it because she has no idea what the priesthood is. She thought a few girls would distract me from that notion. I did NOT appreciate this as you may imagine. Please do not compare your children to their peers in this area! I have no wish to be like my peers in any way! My mother says I have wasted my teenage years because I haven't dated as much as my peers (once I explained that most of my peers are sleeping with each other she stopped bothering me about it). She has no idea the self-control it took to say "NO" to a girl that wanted to sleep with me. I may have been able to do that once but if ten girls had asked me I do not know how long I could have said no. I personally am fine with how things were in high school with me and girls. I do not see the point in dating just to date.  I wish my mother had a traditional Catholic view of dating!
I doubt your children's school is as bad as mine. We had twenty girls that were pregnant last year and five so far this year. seriously.

I am extremely old-fashioned in my attitude toward women and dating. I do not act my age. I have very different priorities than my friends. Most of my close friends are in college or even older. People always call me an "old soul". (I cannot tell if it is an insult or not) Tell me I am too serious etc. Maybe my experiences are not the most helpful for you then. Perhaps I was more dissatisfied with my school and the dating scene in it than most people my age would be. I do not know how your children go about dating or what their school is like so I don't know how helpful it was but I thought it might help to hear the perspective of a teenager even an odd one like myself.  Smile

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ResiduumRevertetur
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 01:40:PM »

Jayne- thanks for the commiseration. Great advice, too!

CC - I feel sneaky sometimes the way I observe the girlfriends and think, hmmmmm, How can I convert them? And with the current ones, I think I gotta shot.  LOL

Brevis - What a great post. Thanks for your honesty, it's so helpful to hear from someone their age, and sad to know that things aren't improved since I was that age. The only difference between now and then is that back then the parents for the most part would back each other up in their values, most were naive, but they meant well. These days other parents are my biggest opponent. Some of them seem to actively be working against other parents' values. I really don't understand it.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2009, 03:35:PM »

These days other parents are my biggest opponent. Some of them seem to actively be working against other parents' values. I really don't understand it.

A lot of my friend's parents don't care that their children have sex as long as they use protection...seriously they don't care. I even knew of one instance where a girl's parents allowed her boyfriend to stay in the house with her for a week while they went on vacation...

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2009, 07:09:PM »

I don't have kids yet (obviously) but I don't plan on encouraging dating just to date.  Dating is for when you are ready (or soon to be ready) for marriage.  This used to be a reasonable expectation for high school students, but now seldom is, due to so many careers requiring college degrees.

I dated short term in high school and it was stupid...I broke it off because there was no way for it to go anywhere, so why bother?  Just have friends of both genders and enjoy life...don't add drama and conflict, and there will be drama and conflict when your relationship has no where to go.
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