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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2010, 05:43:PM » |
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Well I think of Nazis as Jews and Jews as Nazis. The only difference I find between the two groups is that the Nazis and black supremacists are a hairs width more likable. This guy essentially devolved. He traded in a very potent evil for an even more potent evil.
Sorry, I don't delve into this section of the forum often, but what the &G^^^%&* are you talking about? Is that kind of suggestion sanctioned on fisheaters? Edit: Okay, I'm guessing we are looking at the Times article, "Pawel’s metamorphosis from baptized Catholic skinhead to Jew began in a bleak neighborhood of ...". I understand that but did you mean devolved from Nazi or devolved from Catholic? Even if the latter, isn't your language a little harsh? Both. It's better of course to be a Catholic than a Jew or a Nazi. But I think that it's better to be a Nazi than a Jew, since Nazis seem to find it easier to abandon their evil than do the Jews. You'll find that many Nazis disavow their ideology and renounce their old ways and experience a true conversion to the Church. The Jews hardly ever convert to the Church, and when they do it's often false. I didn't mean "devolve" in any racial sense, but trading in an evil belief system for an even more evil one.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2010, 05:57:PM » |
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I think that it's better to be a Nazi than a Jew, since Nazis seem to find it easier to abandon their evil than do the Jews.
Whether or not that is true (and I grant it's possible) doesn't the objective value system have some obvious differences? I think it is very unusual to evaluate an ideology or belief based on how readily its adherents statistically convert to Catholicism rather than how much truth it does actually hold and what the fruits are thereof. You can word it how you like I guess, I see your point, but do you realize how awful that is going to look to a Jew wandering in here who has a secret interest in Catholicism or something? You'll get more bees with honey, no?
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2010, 06:05:PM » |
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If Catholics were more powerful than Jews then I would take the honey approach. But since we are constantly pushed around by these people I don't like to take that approach. I like Fr. Feeney's ecumenical approach.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2010, 06:27:PM » |
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Many American Jews converted to Islam and began spouting "Radical Islam", as the government defined it. Adam Yahiye Gadahn, for example. There are several more. I see "false flag" ops. What do the rest of you see?
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2010, 06:43:PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2010, 07:48:PM » |
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Many American Jews converted to Islam and began spouting "Radical Islam", as the government defined it. Adam Yahiye Gadahn, for example. There are several more. I see "false flag" ops. What do the rest of you see?
We'll never know. For sure there are false flag ops, on the other hand, people have been known to switch to the extreme of what they held before. Plenty of Satanists start out Catholic, for example.
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2010, 11:39:PM » |
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I once knew a black supremacist, who later found out that one of his great-grandfathers was white. That took a while to sink in.
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2010, 12:17:AM » |
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I think that it's better to be a Nazi than a Jew, since Nazis seem to find it easier to abandon their evil than do the Jews.
Whether or not that is true (and I grant it's possible) doesn't the objective value system have some obvious differences? I think it is very unusual to evaluate an ideology or belief based on how readily its adherents statistically convert to Catholicism rather than how much truth it does actually hold and what the fruits are thereof. You can word it how you like I guess, I see your point, but do you realize how awful that is going to look to a Jew wandering in here who has a secret interest in Catholicism or something? You'll get more bees with honey, no? Who has been a greater enemy to Christ and the Church over the last two thousand years? Oh right those evil ol Nazis who've been dead for the last 60+years.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2010, 12:21:AM » |
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I once knew a black supremacist, who later found out that one of his great-grandfathers was white. That took a while to sink in.
They can be very thick sometimes can't they. And as far as great grandaddy cracker, you appearntly don't know about the one drop rule........ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule
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To defend oneself, one must also be ready to die. There is little such readiness in a society raised in the cult of material well-being. Nothing is left, then, but concessions, attempts to gain time, and betrayal. --- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
"Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it." -St. Augustine Doctor of the Church
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
There is no limit to investigating the truth; until you discover it. - Cicero
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2010, 12:29:AM » |
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I just didn't/don't care. He did, though.
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