Illuminati Created the US to Advance NWO by By Henry Makow, Ph.D, March 29, 2010

[ILoveChineseMoonCakes]

Switzerland is very clean. I like clean. Don't you? Besides, I really dig Fondue, and good chocolates and pastries.
Also, citizens are required to keep Stg 90 at home with 1,000 rounds that they are required to go to the range and burn up in practice every year. I think it is great.
Besides all that, it is a non-aligned country with either the Warsaw Pact or NATO. Free, independent, healthy and happy people. That is outstanding in my book.
Singapore is the purest form of Capitalism on the planet. America does not even come close. Business is good there. In fact, aside from Shanghai, Singapore is
where most American corporations set-up their Far East HQ's. It makes a lot of sense. From there, most other Asian countries are only short rides away. What is
there not to like. Oh, by the way, it is very clean there, too. Finally, if you enjoy food, that is the place to be. The SSPX has their Asia Pacific HQ there, and there is a
good community of Trads like you and me. So, there is the real Mass being Sacrificed there.

Taiwan yeah sure whatever
Swizterland ok but what's ur critaria
NZ fine but I'd rather life in the states then NZ
But what's your critaria. If its about masons I think NZ u can't include I swizterland I guess that depends on the canton
So ur left with taiwan lol sure whatever
And oh yeah singapore
Spare me

[ILoveChineseMoonCakes]

You have something against the Blessed Virgin Mary?
If she did not think it is important for mankind, she would not had bothered to tell us through Mother Mariana de Torres Jesus that in the middle of the 19th and 20th century, the cult of Freemason will take over most of the world's government.

Considering all the things that are happening before our very eyes, they all confirmed what the Blessed Virgin has warned us. This leads us to ask the Holy Father to finally consecrate Russia along with all the Bishops of the world so that the errors of Russia that has caused so much suffering in the world will finally come to an end.

By the way, you sound very cranky. Please have a glass of wine, or go for a walk. Take deep breath. You will feel better, and maybe be more likable. Maybe it will even make you more charming, too.

 Your concerns are 'of this earth'.  You exude the unhealthy excitement of the Gnostic heretic who knows the 'secrets' that 'ordinary fools' don't know.  Believe me I know the excitement and happiness and distraction of  such 'earth shaking revelations' - been there myself.  Just let go of all this arcane 'knowledge' and 'inside stuff' or you will end up like me and countless others - full of passionate intensities in which one's 'self' is heavily invested and a heart with no room for Christ.  Man, as St. Thomas knew, was made for delight and pleasure.  Delight in our infinitely loving God or delight in the world.  You have chosen, obviously delight in Illuminati conspiracies over delight in God who made YOU for eternal happiness.

[In nomine Patris]

I never really understood American "patriotism".

As a country, it's just a masonic experiment gone wrong. Or right, depending upon how you look at it. One big mess from the start. Given the parties involved (the British, Calvinists, Deists, Capitalists and so on) it was never going to turn out good.

And what country do you hail from, friend?

[In nomine Patris]

Do you know that the Blessed Virgin  Mary prophesied some 400 years ago by way of Mother Maria de Torres Jesus that  in the middle of the 19th through the 20th century Freemasonry satanic cult will take over most governments of the world ? You really should read, "Our Lady of Good Success". You can find an excerpt at the Our Lady of the Rosary site under Catholic Prophesies.

In fact, the Roman Catholic Church spoke forcefully against Freemasonry for centuries until it was successfully captured by Freemasons culminating with Vatican II, and thereafter. The only way to save her is for the Pope to consecrate Russia along with all the Bishops of the world so that the errors of Russia and the damage of the Freemasons will come to an end.

I have read both books and you are right. Common concensus is the next Pope will finally do the consecration, by then it will be late. Dont really know how late.

[spasiisochrani]

I never really understood American "patriotism".

As a country, it's just a masonic experiment gone wrong. Or right, depending upon how you look at it. One big mess from the start. Given the parties involved (the British, Calvinists, Deists, Capitalists and so on) it was never going to turn out good.

Yeah, but it's home.  That's got to be worth something.

[4525x]

And what country do you hail from, friend?

I won't be giving out my location, but I am of Irish descent (on both sides) and this is where my loyalties lie. I hope to settle their permanently - sadly I'm stuck with visiting at this stage - when some loose ends here are tied up.

And no, you do not need to inform me as to the flaws, to put it it lightly, of the government of the South. But this is not the government of Ireland by any means (Ireland does not have a government of her own).

I never really understood American "patriotism".

As a country, it's just a masonic experiment gone wrong. Or right, depending upon how you look at it. One big mess from the start. Given the parties involved (the British, Calvinists, Deists, Capitalists and so on) it was never going to turn out good.

A distribudummy opens his mouth...or was that distributhief?

I'm not a distributist. Though, if I hadn't mentioned Capitalists, what would your criticism have been? That I'd slandered the good name of Britain, Calvinism, deism and Freemasonry?

It is a Catholic virtue to love ones country and try to better it....in many ways America's founding fits well with Catholic teaching...it is our duty to attempt to fix what did not.

I agree, nothing says Catholic like a secular republic founded by deistic WASPs.

By the way, I think you forgot to type a word between "what" and "did" at the end of your sentence.

Folks that think the American founding is at odds with the Faith in any meaningful way either 1 - do not understand the Faith, or 2 - have no idea what the founding documents say/mean...or both.

Correct. We require lectures from intellectuals such as yourself, lest we believe that the American founding is at odds with the Faith in "any meaningful way" (by the way, it is not so much America's founding that is the problem (anyone who acts as a thorn in the side to the British terrorists is all right by me), rather the influence that these groups had on America and it's inhabitants as a people - I think Americans are proof that the origins of a thing often define the essence of that thing).

As usual, everyone is wrong but the Americans - like a certain other group, whom I undoubtedly should have included in my list of 'parties involved' given their influence on American politics and the American psyche.

[devotedknuckles]

well what do u expect. ur trashing their nation. if  a bunch o brits were trashin Ireland would u just swallow? maybe u would but i wouldn't. so yes most on this board are Americans. trashing their home will cause a reaction. considering u wont tell them your nation though u claim to be Irish what do u expect of them? did u not onc epost u were in new york? rather then shake a finger at peoples homes why not offer an alternative?
what catholic nation founded by catholics which has a catholic gov and catholic laws would u recommend Americans relocate to?

[4525x]

well what do u expect. ur trashing their nation. if  a bunch o brits were trashin Ireland would u just swallow? maybe u would but i wouldn't.

I wouldn't either.

Also, America is a state, not a nation. They aren't the same. Which is why I laugh at the idea of "American nationalism" and even more absurd ideas like "Texan nationalism"! The nation of Texas. What a joke. But I'm digressing, I'm just highlighting that the American concept of the nation is confused with the state. This is really a different thread topic though, sorry for my digression.

so yes most on this board are Americans. trashing their home will cause a reaction. considering u wont tell them your nation though u claim to be Irish what do u expect of them?

I'd just like to clear something up: Ireland is my nation. It is not the state of my birth or residence at this time, but blood and identity transcend states and borders and my heart and loyalty rests with Ireland alone. If somebody wants to criticise Ireland and the Irish, let them. We can talk about it.

did u not onc epost u were in new york? rather then shake a finger at peoples homes why not offer an alternative?
what catholic nation founded by catholics which has a catholic gov and catholic laws would u recommend Americans relocate to?

This thread is about the United States, so I commented on the United States and criticised it. If a thread about Ireland comes up, anyone can say what they want about it. That's fine. Now, to my knowledge there are no good Catholic states. But that does not mean I can't criticise America and it's people. I'm not singling them out - I'm fairly certain I've commented on Britain/England and it's people as well. If a thread comes up about something and I have something to say about the topic of that thread, I'll say it. You're taking this much too personally, and reading much too heavily into what I said. Are you even American?

As for places better than America, I personally would prefer to live in Ireland and generally speaking most European countries (European cultures are far superior to that of America, but that's just my opinion and that's why I'd pick Europe over the US) except Britain, which heavily resembles the US. I'm not even telling them to leave the US (Americans stay in America, please), I'm criticising their state - their state being the subject of this thread. There's nothing wrong with that. As I said, let them say whatever they want about Ireland, and we can talk about that.

But none of this really has anything to do with the thread, we're just rambling now. My point was that America was always going to be a disaster due to characteristics of its founders/early influencers, for want of a better term, which I thought was relevant to the thread's topic.

[unknown]

Oh my God, this is horrible.  The US is to the Illuminati what a pizzeria is to the mob.  Hundreds of years the Illuminati have been planning my enslavement, so it's not my neighbors fault for being stupid...I'm so relieved.

I don't know. What exactly were Benjamin Franklin and his contemporaries doing in the underground caverns hidden under a Church in England? 

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/288090/ben_franklin_and_his_membership_in.html?cat=37

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiyiJzpa4Fk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiyiJzpa4Fk</a>

[devotedknuckles]

Im not American. but ive around the globe a few times and spent a good decade in America to know its not that bad. its not the disaster u make it out to be. far from it. it has its plms and sadly is getting worse.  but i don't get your euro superior trash. id rather live in the states then Europe having lived in both. that's me.