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« on: April 07, 2010, 01:29:AM »

How did the Jewish leaders justify:

1. Abandoning the Temple (i.e., never attempting to rebuild/substitute it)?

2. Abandoning the sacrifices specified in the Old Testament?

It seems as though a major piece of their relationship with Jehovah was tossed overboard, making Vatican II look minor. Just curious how they sold the revision.
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 03:04:AM »

How did the Jewish leaders justify:

1. Abandoning the Temple (i.e., never attempting to rebuild/substitute it)?

Attempts were made to rebuild it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Temple#Ancient_attempts_at_rebuilding

They never really gave up on the idea. Even today:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdX_Ee7PiF8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdX_Ee7PiF8</a>

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2. Abandoning the sacrifices specified in the Old Testament?

Your guess is as good as mine on this one. The OT is full of commandments not obeyed by Jews today.

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It seems as though a major piece of their relationship with Jehovah was tossed overboard, making Vatican II look minor. Just curious how they sold the revision.

Christ makes all things new. The Temple, high priesthood, sacrifices etc. ceased to apply, if you will.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 04:40:AM »

How did the Jewish leaders justify:

1. Abandoning the Temple (i.e., never attempting to rebuild/substitute it)?

2. Abandoning the sacrifices specified in the Old Testament?

It seems as though a major piece of their relationship with Jehovah was tossed overboard, making Vatican II look minor. Just curious how they sold the revision.

My take on this is:

The temple was razed to the ground by the Romans (70 AD) and the Jews were physically kept out (with a few exceptions) of Jerusalem for over one hundred years. 

The temple could only be built in Jerusalem - God's holy city - and nowhere else (this is part of Jewish "canon law" and mandated by the Scriptures).  The Romans also obliterated (i.e. killed) the priesthood which was mainly hereditary.  Without a priesthood - no sacrifices.

Temple sacrifices could only be offered in the Temple.  Since the Romans destroyed the Temple and Jerusalem with it, no sacrifice to God could be performed.  The synagogues dispersed throughout the world are not the Temple nor are they extensions of the Temple.  Synagogues are mainly for prayer, cultural adhesion, and teaching.  No sacrifices can be performed there.

The temple couldn't be rebuilt after the fall of the Roman Empire due to the fact Jerusalem has been occupied by "foreign" people until the 1940's - 1960's (1600 years).  These occupiers of Jerusalem after the Romans - muslims, Christians and secular authorities - would not allow the Temple to be rebuilt.   Since the muslims have claimed the site of the Temple since the 600's A.D. and have built their Grand Mosque on that very spot,  the Jews today can't rebuild without starting a nuclear religious World War with the muslims and face annihilation.  They would have to literally destroy the Mosque to rebuild the Temple.  Think about that in today's world  Crazy .

This way of thinking is typical of following the Law by the letter - instead of by the heart -  as Jews / Talmudists do today. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 08:22:AM »

And just for emphasis; God allowed the Romans as the instrument, to utterly destroy the Temple, to underline that Christ is the way. Then the Romans in their turn were punished for that destruction.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 09:20:AM »

How did the Jewish leaders justify:

1. Abandoning the Temple (i.e., never attempting to rebuild/substitute it)?

2. Abandoning the sacrifices specified in the Old Testament?

It seems as though a major piece of their relationship with Jehovah was tossed overboard, making Vatican II look minor. Just curious how they sold the revision.

Only a small group of Pharisees, who were easily swayed by politics (the removal of several books from their scriptures to appease the Romans being an example) were left  to form modern Judaism. All modern Judaism is based on these people.

Their priesthood, their nation and their knowledge of scripture is lost. Actually, it isn't lost. The priesthood is in the Church, the nation is less about borders on sand and more about the people of God and the knowledge of Truth is in the Church as well.
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 09:27:AM »


here is a site dedicated to rebuilding the temple.
http://www.thirdtempleworld.com/
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2010, 10:03:AM »


here is a site dedicated to rebuilding the temple.
http://www.thirdtempleworld.com/

Interesting site....but it's just the specultative and nostalgic fantasies of certain Talmudists.  The "Temple" is Jesus Christ and His Church.  Until the Talmudists accept that fact they'll continue living in their blindness and error.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 10:11:AM »

true but these guys really want to pull it off. thats a moderate site. some of these lunatics really want to get going with it
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 10:22:AM »

true but these guys really want to pull it off. thats a moderate site. some of these lunatics really want to get going with it


If they try then this will be the result:

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2010, 10:32:AM »

maybe but who will nuke them? mohams have allot to lose too just sayin
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