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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2010, 04:08:PM » |
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your just to quick witted and smart for me voxpop
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2010, 04:10:PM » |
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I'd be just a pissy about a quote (no matter how true) from Luther, Hitler, Calvan, and on and on...
An excellent point. For example, I'm quite certain that Hitler had a good thing to say every now and then, but if one were to quote anything uplifting of his, as if they were words to live by, would be outright scandalous. I think the same is true here. For most of us yes but Credo Worships satans Prophet. Citation, please. Where is your evidence? I have never read him advocating the worship of Mohammed, at all---ever. So if I have missed something, kindly, enlighten or educate me; as I cannot see your evidence for whatever reason.  |
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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2010, 04:15:PM » |
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Therebus a big difference worshiping mohamet and implying in post after post after post that he is holy o a prophet
it leads to allot of misundrtanding
it's convienient as he can claim look I never said this or that
imply is another story
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2010, 04:21:PM » |
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Therebus a big difference worshiping mohamet and implying in post after post after post that he is holy o a prophet
it leads to allot of misundrtanding
it's convienient as he can claim look I never said this or that
imply is another story
And having other people fabricate views which they attribute to Credo is yet another story. Show me a statement that implies what you say. |
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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2010, 04:33:PM » |
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As my granny would say, "Open yer eye holes."  As for the study of Islam...it can be done...but only AMDG. |
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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2010, 04:42:PM » |
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SouthpawLink, thank-you for your advice.
This statement is made with no sarcasm: There are those who are at the level where they can spiritualize everything. I am not at that level. I do not want to be at that level. Some years ago I tried and it's not really a place I want to return to (a whole separate thread waiting to be born!).
There are those who can spiritualize academic studies. I am not one of them. I do not want to be one of them. I have no desire whatsoever to have a priest figuratively looking over my shoulder in my studies. None whatsoever. While understanding the szchoid nature of marginalizing ones religious beliefs to understand another time and place, I feel this is a necessary part of learning about the past. One has to become a materially satisfied, emotionally hollow child of the Fifties in order to understand the Sixties. One has to become a superstitious, credulous, illiterate Russian peasant waiting for a civil messiah in order to understand the Russian Revolution. One has to become a bandit-wary slave living in a Mad Max society in order to understand the appeal of Islam. This is how I assimilate information.
Now if anyone else reading this thread wants a priest looking over their shoulder telling them what they can and cannot read, go for it. If anyone wants to believe that the devil is directing their course of study when it enters an area of Christian taboo (e.g.: early Islamic history), indulge away. That’s not for me, though. Things need not be universal. If I want to study Islam I’ll do so. If this is pride, then so be it. (Again, I don't believe this last point to be the case.) In the meantime, I await the dawn when Catholics will no longer have a ninnying fear of learning.
"For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." Learn on!
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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2010, 04:46:PM » |
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As my granny would say, "Open yer eye holes." The people who are making these claims about Credo have an obligation to support them with evidence. Saying that it is obvious, no matter how colourfully phrased, it not good enough. |
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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2010, 04:53:PM » |
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Now if anyone else reading this thread wants a priest looking over their shoulder telling them what they can and cannot read, go for it. If anyone wants to believe that the devil is directing their course of study when it enters an area of Christian taboo (e.g.: early Islamic history), indulge away. That’s not for me, though. Things need not be universal. If I want to study Islam I’ll do so. If this is pride, then so be it. (Again, I don't believe this last point to be the case.) In the meantime, I await the dawn when Catholics will no longer have a ninnying fear of learning.
"For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." Learn on!
When I tell my children that they must always swim with a buddy, I am not telling them to fear the water. I am recognizing that there is a risk involved and telling them how to minimize the risk. There is a risk involved in studying Islam the way you are doing it and SouthpawLink has given you excellent advice. |
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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2010, 04:56:PM » |
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When I tell my children that they must always swim with a buddy, I am not telling them to fear the water.
Enough with the Mother Church bit. I'm not a child. |
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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2010, 04:56:PM » |
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In the meantime, I await the dawn when Catholics will no longer have a ninnying fear of learning. Lo and behold: yet another subtle bashing of Catholics. It seems to me that you have a problem with intellectual pride, Credo. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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