JayneK
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« Reply #70 on: August 11, 2010, 09:00:AM » |
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It's the same thing with Catholics. Having imbibed Protestant anti-intellectualism duringthe Church's Stone Age days in the United States (1700s, 1800s), modern Catholics in America are clueless as to the contributions of their religion to the learning of men. The reality is a kid (i.e.: modern Christians) sick with anti-intellectual attitudes. If that's "bashing," then so be it. If I may use another overworked expression, however, "I'm calling it like I see it."
I agree that there are problems with anti-intellectualism. But every negative statement regarding knowledge or intellect is not necessarily a manifestation it. There is a down side to intellect and you, Credo, are just the sort of person who needs to be aware of it. I don't think you are a crypto-Muslim or even unduly sympathetic to Islam, but I do think that you are in spiritual danger. I am not writing this to bash you but because I am genuinely concerned. Nobody who knows me would accuse me of being anti-intellectual. It is obvious that I greatly value the life of the mind. I also have a higher IQ and more formal education than most people. And that is how I know about the sins and faults associated with the intellect - personal experience. If anybody does a documentary on "Brains Gone Bad" I can be a script consultant. I have struggled against sinful attitudes in this area for as long as I can remember. I thought that I was always right. I was impatient with people who disagreed with me. I thought that being smarter made me better and looked down on others. I thought I was too special for the rules for normal people to apply to me. I was the kind of arrogant jerk that causes anti-intellectualism to develop in reaction. I'm putting that in past tense because I really hope that I have learned better, but the temptation to think this way is still there, I'm still fighting it and I don't always succeed. I expect that I always will be fighting it until I die. Your intellect is a gift. You can use it in the service of God and do great good. But is is just as susceptible to perversion as any other good gift of God. If you dismiss every warning about these dangers as anti-intellectualism, if you reject the counsel of the wise, you will be heading on a path to sin. I am praying for you.  |
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ADORABLE Saviour, consider my many wants, and grant me those graces which Thou knowest I stand in need of to do Thy will in all things.
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« Reply #71 on: August 11, 2010, 11:34:AM » |
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This is an incredibly tasteless and disrespectful thing to call Our Lord.
Hardly. Christ isn't a plaster statue. If he were walking the earth today he'd be the guy with cutoff gloves warming himself by the burning trash can in the back alley. Don&# |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #72 on: August 11, 2010, 12:11:PM » |
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Don't try to spin it.
I run a no spin zone.  You insulted Our Lord.
No insult here. Jesus Christ spent three years of his life without a penny in his pocket. He crashed at people's houses for the night and invited himself over for dinner. I could imagine your feigned outrage had I used the word bum, which has a more negative connotation for Americans, but hobo works quite nicely. Jesus would be riding the rail were he around these days. Apologize.
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JayneK
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« Reply #73 on: August 11, 2010, 12:17:PM » |
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Apologize.
Not on your life. Credo, I can believe that you intended no insult to our Lord, but you do seem out to shock the sensibilities of your readers here. I think you are more guilty of lack of charity than of blasphemy. Nevertheless, I encourage you to put some more prayer and thought into the way you are writing. |
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ADORABLE Saviour, consider my many wants, and grant me those graces which Thou knowest I stand in need of to do Thy will in all things.
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devotedknuckles
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« Reply #74 on: August 11, 2010, 12:18:PM » |
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CHRIST would not be hoping rails today as in breaking the law and riding for free, nonsense!
listin to yourself credo.
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This is the journey
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« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2010, 12:21:PM » |
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I will not be spoken to in the tone of VetusOrdo who commanded an action on my part. CHRIST would not be hoping rails today as in breaking the law and riding for free, nonsense!
listin to yourself credo.
You're right, devotedknuckles. In 2010 Christ would be on the Clergy Response Teams preaching Romans 13 and submission to tyrants. |
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devotedknuckles
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« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2010, 12:30:PM » |
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would CHRIST be smoking dope in the hobo camps close to junctions too credo? would CHRIST have hobo signs tattooed to him also?
how far are you willing to go, to insult CHRIST? to what end? why?
vetus isnt asking u for an apology to him
hes telling u in kindness you should apologize for insulting CHRIST to CHRIST
really better safe then sorry lad
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This is the journey
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Scipio_a
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« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2010, 01:27:PM » |
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Don't try to spin it.
I run a no spin zone. A no spin zone...LOL....you are nothing but spin....Alex Jones....spinner extraordinaire...is a credible source for you....LOL That's like calling an infomercial news Remember Alex Jones is "the only one brave enough to make this news public."....LOL You're so spun up that the spin looks like it's standing still to you as you spin it....like Alex Jones' little top. |
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"Scipio Bull Biscuits, a flawlessly indoctrinated feminist male." - paraphrased from voxpop in one of his shining moments!! "You've become a full adept to your kabbalistic philosemetism ...why not get it over with and fully convert to Judaism. At lest that would be respectable." - Popscile "[Scipio's] high on mouth and low on brains" - a brainiac "...all I can guess is that maybe you're gay and haven't figured it out yet."  ....LOL "a malicious twerp" - A candylander "I ain't no freakin' monument to justice!" -Moonstruck "Check out the big brain on Brad" - Jules |
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« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2010, 01:34:PM » |
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A no spin zone...LOL....you are nothing but spin....Alex Jones....spinner extraordinaire...is a credible source for you....LOL
That's like calling an infomercial news
Remember Alex Jones is "the only one brave enough to make this news public."....LOL
You're so spun up that the spin looks like it's standing still to you as you spin it....like Alex Jones' little top.
I don't follow. |
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Scipio_a
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« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2010, 01:53:PM » |
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A no spin zone...LOL....you are nothing but spin....Alex Jones....spinner extraordinaire...is a credible source for you....LOL
That's like calling an infomercial news
Remember Alex Jones is "the only one brave enough to make this news public."....LOL
You're so spun up that the spin looks like it's standing still to you as you spin it....like Alex Jones' little top.
I don't follow. That's 'cause I wasn't spinning |
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"Scipio Bull Biscuits, a flawlessly indoctrinated feminist male." - paraphrased from voxpop in one of his shining moments!! "You've become a full adept to your kabbalistic philosemetism ...why not get it over with and fully convert to Judaism. At lest that would be respectable." - Popscile "[Scipio's] high on mouth and low on brains" - a brainiac "...all I can guess is that maybe you're gay and haven't figured it out yet." ....LOL "a malicious twerp" - A candylander "I ain't no freakin' monument to justice!" -Moonstruck "Check out the big brain on Brad" - Jules |
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