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Question: Is it sinful for a Catholic to get a tattoo?
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« Reply #260 on: October 07, 2010, 12:43:PM »

I've thought about getting a tattoo and the more I think about it....its ridiculous to get anything permanent on your body! Why not get just a henna tattoo or a temporary tattoo...for a day or a few days or so?



Mariska looks great with a temporary tattoo, and for a great cause!

The tattoo is a graphic treatment of the words, “NO DISRESPECT.”  Being disrespected by a partner is a sign that a relationship may be abusive.
 
“Wearing this tattoo will help raise awareness by starting conversations about the signs of domestic violence and abuse, especially the less obvious ones.”
-- Mariska Hargitay


Why couldn't her tattoo just read "NO DISRESPECT" in plain English?
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« Reply #261 on: October 07, 2010, 12:51:PM »

LOL for that question you'd have to ask Safe Horizon and their tattoo company tattoo promotion factor lolz! Its NODISRESPECT mushed together and I'm not sure...it looks like she put two on..one under the other...I think it looks good though :p and it definitely would help to strike up a conversation with someone for the issue...since they'd be like what does that tattoo say? Though its an example of how temporary tattoos can be just as cool!
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"Everyone, please hold hands," August directs as his father, then his mother, says grace. They give thanks for the food, their health, the beautiful day, and the company of friends. They ask for guidance and to grow closer to God.
Though Hargitay and Hermann met at work, their first real date was at his church. "It was pretty sacred and profound in our life," Hargitay says. "It completely set the tone for our relationship and our marriage."
Though she was raised Catholic and has a very strong faith, Hargitay calls herself a Christian who doesn't go to church every Sunday. "Religion has caused wars and also a lot of pain, and I don't think that's what God intended," she says with quiet conviction. "I find faith to be a more private thing. For me, it's about my personal relationship with God. I think God has a plan, and a big one. I try to live in gratitude and awe and to get to know Him better and pray that He helps guide me in the decisions I make."
She believes in signs. And on that day, in that church, an inner voice told her that she had not gotten married yet because she had been waiting for Hermann. "I had been engaged before, but what I felt for Peter I had never felt before — it was knowing that someone else put you first and that you put him first. A lot of people have doubts on their wedding day, but I was never so sure and happy. We were going into the unknown together and were taking care of each other the way you're supposed to when you are married."
Wed for six years now, Hargitay describes her marriage as the perfect balance of opposites: "I bring him out, he brings me in; he slows me down, I make him go faster." -Mariska Hargitay

When Mariska Hargitay, Costar of the TV series “Law and Order: Special Victims Unit,” was asked about positive influences in her life, she responded with this comment on the sister from her high school who encouraged her to reach her full potential:

“If there’s such thing as cheering silently, that’s what I felt Sister Margaret always did for me.  I saw it in her eyes, and it meant the world to me.  Of course she encouraged me out loud as well, but knowing that someone was holding hope and faith for me inside herself made an enormous difference in my life.  I hope I have the opportunity to pass along that gift.”
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« Reply #262 on: October 07, 2010, 03:20:PM »

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Though she was raised Catholic and has a very strong faith, Hargitay calls herself a Christian who doesn't go to church every Sunday.

If she was raised Catholic, then she should know of Christ's Real Presence in the Eucharist. If her faith is as strong as she says, then why doesn't she go to Church to receive Him?

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"Religion has caused wars and also a lot of pain,

Guns don't kill people unless someone (mis)uses them for that purpose. People kill people . . . the gun is but the means. Of itself, a gun can kill no-one. Of itself, my forefinger can kill no-one. However, both guns and my forefinger can kill a man if I so choose to make them. Should we sever all forefingers from the hands of those who bear them because they could be used to kill someone?

Religion of itself has caused no more war or pain than guns of themselves have.

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and I don't think that's what God intended,"

Right. He willed that there be one truth, and there is. That some have taken it upon themselves to build counterfeit "truths" is not what God desired. But one shouldn't throw out the real money with the counterfeit. One should sort through it to find out which is which.

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she says with quiet conviction. "I find faith to be a more private thing. For me, it's about my personal relationship with God.

Then it is this God Who has been the cause of so much war and pain, because every man-made religion finds a person at its center who claims to have had this same "personal relationship with God." What makes them wrong about what faith is and Mariska right?

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I think God has a plan, and a big one.

We know He does.

Quote from: Mariska
I try to live in gratitude and awe and to get to know Him better and pray that He helps guide me in the decisions I make."-Mariska

He designed a Church for that through which He dispenses all grace. Trying to find it while rejecting the Church is like trying to drink the water from a water fountain with a bag over your face.

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Hargitay (Okay Buttahz and I are definitely on the same page when it comes to religion)!

That is not good, because she is very wrong about religion.

Truth is not self-serving, and God does not exist for the purpose of serving us, to help us in our decisions, or to make us feel good. We exist to serve God, conform to His will, and to give Him glory, and the Catholic faith is the means He has given us by which we might do this.
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“Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time” (2 Peter 1:10).

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« Reply #263 on: October 07, 2010, 04:48:PM »

O_o nice disection of everything there! I must admit I myself TRY to go to church every Sunday...at least when I'm home. I can't possibly go EVERY single Sunday though when I stay in the room that my mom helps pay...the room we rent for me while I go to college during the week. I have an aunt who lives nearby who goes at 7am, but I'm not getting up at like 6am to go to church on a Sunday when its my sleep in day. I also don't like the church near my college that well...the priest is okay...but I prefer waiting and going to church when I go back and visit my parents like I'm going to do this weekend Smile. Although sometimes too when I go back and visit my parents...if I spend time with my Dad..because my mom usually takes me everywhere my Dad likes to try to have a chance at spending time with me because...and we don't exactly spend time as a whole family....I'm either with one parent or the other. I'm not delving into the why. However, sometimes the only way to spend time with my Dad is going somewhere with him on a Sunday and my mom allows me to go, so I end up having to miss out on church as much as I do feel bad because I do like going to that particular church....however my Dad's not Catholic and so he wouldn't ever step into a church...just to go. My mom also is not about to go to the earlier mass just so I could go to mass, not when we both usually sing at the 11am mass. I guess I am a bit prejudiced about what church I go to...if I don't like the church, I won't go. I'd rather wait until I go back home to spend time with my parents and go to mass. Its also difficult to go to mass at the church near my college when I don't have a car and only a bike. The church is a good distance away from my college/room. Yet I still consider myself to be a Christian--Catholic. I also think that religion is a more private affair...I pray to God to help guide me in my life to make the right decisions...and to help anyone in my family who needs help. Those things that I pray for do not mean that I think God is self-serving...and I don't think that is what Mariska intends either. God guides us to make the right decisions and we simply ask him to help in making the right decision and to help anyone who needs help like the poor and our own families and anyone with illnesses. I'm not sure if Mariska prays too him about serving him(I think she might if I know her well enough which I think I do..even though I have not met her...though from talking with her costars...) I have prayed about how to serve him and to help me serve him better.Religion itself has started wars...the controversies that spring up about religion which cause fighting...yes we are the ones in the end who cause the fighting...but about/over religion and religion has brought suffering/pain. God of course as you agreed to does not intend for this too happen even though it does. As well, yes so many including I think that faith is a private thing and that it is about our personal relationship with God. Also...Mariska goes to church at least...and she does not "deny" the church at all....she also prays...this is much like what I do.
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"Everyone, please hold hands," August directs as his father, then his mother, says grace. They give thanks for the food, their health, the beautiful day, and the company of friends. They ask for guidance and to grow closer to God.
Though Hargitay and Hermann met at work, their first real date was at his church. "It was pretty sacred and profound in our life," Hargitay says. "It completely set the tone for our relationship and our marriage."
Though she was raised Catholic and has a very strong faith, Hargitay calls herself a Christian who doesn't go to church every Sunday. "Religion has caused wars and also a lot of pain, and I don't think that's what God intended," she says with quiet conviction. "I find faith to be a more private thing. For me, it's about my personal relationship with God. I think God has a plan, and a big one. I try to live in gratitude and awe and to get to know Him better and pray that He helps guide me in the decisions I make."
She believes in signs. And on that day, in that church, an inner voice told her that she had not gotten married yet because she had been waiting for Hermann. "I had been engaged before, but what I felt for Peter I had never felt before — it was knowing that someone else put you first and that you put him first. A lot of people have doubts on their wedding day, but I was never so sure and happy. We were going into the unknown together and were taking care of each other the way you're supposed to when you are married."
Wed for six years now, Hargitay describes her marriage as the perfect balance of opposites: "I bring him out, he brings me in; he slows me down, I make him go faster." -Mariska Hargitay

When Mariska Hargitay, Costar of the TV series “Law and Order: Special Victims Unit,” was asked about positive influences in her life, she responded with this comment on the sister from her high school who encouraged her to reach her full potential:

“If there’s such thing as cheering silently, that’s what I felt Sister Margaret always did for me.  I saw it in her eyes, and it meant the world to me.  Of course she encouraged me out loud as well, but knowing that someone was holding hope and faith for me inside herself made an enormous difference in my life.  I hope I have the opportunity to pass along that gift.”
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« Reply #264 on: October 07, 2010, 05:32:PM »

O_o nice disection of everything there!

Thank you.

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I also think that religion is a more private affair

Well, it is private insomuch as you shouldn't publicly flaunt Truth out of pride, but one has an obligation to profess truth.

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Religion itself has started wars...the controversies that spring up about religion which cause fighting...yes we are the ones in the end who cause the fighting...but about/over religion and religion has brought suffering/pain.

Well, in this case, the controversies that spring up about babies (Whose is it? Who has rights to it? Who is responsible for it?) have caused fighting. So in this sense, babies have brought suffering/pain.

We live in an imperfect world. Virtually everything here has a purpose, and since we are a fallible race, these things are subject to misuse according to our imperfections. If we apply the same rule to other aspects that some do to religion--that truth shouldn't be professed because it is a "private matter"--then we must eliminate everything the abuse of which causes suffering. That includes speech, thought, reproductive faculties, the bodily senses... just about everything must go.

The solution is not to cure the effects of immorality. The solution is to cure the cause of immorality. 

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God of course as you agreed to does not intend for this too happen even though it does. As well, yes so many including I think that faith is a private thing and that it is about our personal relationship with God.

I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean. What do you mean that faith is a private thing? Do you mean that one should not manifest his faith in God in public if need be?--that one should not speak out against those things which offend God?--that one should not make the Sign of the Cross before meals in a restaurant?--that one does not need the Catholic Church to know revealed truth?

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Also...Mariska goes to church at least...and she does not "deny" the church at all....she also prays...this is much like what I do.

If she left the Catholic faith, she denies it.

She may pray, but if she's abandoned God's Church, this prayer alone won't save her.

Our Blessed Lord and Savior said that not everyone who cries "Lord, Lord!" shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
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"The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who were wont to hold as outside Catholic communion, and alien to the Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative magisterium" (Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum, no.  9, June 29, 1896).

“Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time” (2 Peter 1:10).



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« Reply #265 on: October 07, 2010, 06:41:PM »


If she left the Catholic faith, she denies it.

She may pray, but if she's abandoned God's Church, this prayer alone won't save her.

Our Blessed Lord and Savior said that not everyone who cries "Lord, Lord!" shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Although she never exactly has left the Catholic faith...she was raised Catholic but calls herself a Christian and she has not abandoned God's church because quite clearly she goes to church whenever she can, just not EVERY single Sunday. Its like I consider myself Christian-Catholic...I don't deny the church and I've never abandoned the church...I try to go every Sunday...but unfortunately I can't go EVERY Sunday to church...because sometimes their are issues that come up ...I don't go to church when I rightly know that I have a cold...because I don't want to spread germs to anyone else, or sometimes something else happens. I realize I may not be a traditional Catholic...although I love masses in latin...they're done so well...and I have not given up on God...I was raised Catholic as well.
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Mariska&her newest edition by adoption-~Amaya Josephine Hargitay Hermann~


Oh yea...Mariska finally got a twitter -dances/faints/happiness/-@Mariska

"Everyone, please hold hands," August directs as his father, then his mother, says grace. They give thanks for the food, their health, the beautiful day, and the company of friends. They ask for guidance and to grow closer to God.
Though Hargitay and Hermann met at work, their first real date was at his church. "It was pretty sacred and profound in our life," Hargitay says. "It completely set the tone for our relationship and our marriage."
Though she was raised Catholic and has a very strong faith, Hargitay calls herself a Christian who doesn't go to church every Sunday. "Religion has caused wars and also a lot of pain, and I don't think that's what God intended," she says with quiet conviction. "I find faith to be a more private thing. For me, it's about my personal relationship with God. I think God has a plan, and a big one. I try to live in gratitude and awe and to get to know Him better and pray that He helps guide me in the decisions I make."
She believes in signs. And on that day, in that church, an inner voice told her that she had not gotten married yet because she had been waiting for Hermann. "I had been engaged before, but what I felt for Peter I had never felt before — it was knowing that someone else put you first and that you put him first. A lot of people have doubts on their wedding day, but I was never so sure and happy. We were going into the unknown together and were taking care of each other the way you're supposed to when you are married."
Wed for six years now, Hargitay describes her marriage as the perfect balance of opposites: "I bring him out, he brings me in; he slows me down, I make him go faster." -Mariska Hargitay

When Mariska Hargitay, Costar of the TV series “Law and Order: Special Victims Unit,” was asked about positive influences in her life, she responded with this comment on the sister from her high school who encouraged her to reach her full potential:

“If there’s such thing as cheering silently, that’s what I felt Sister Margaret always did for me.  I saw it in her eyes, and it meant the world to me.  Of course she encouraged me out loud as well, but knowing that someone was holding hope and faith for me inside herself made an enormous difference in my life.  I hope I have the opportunity to pass along that gift.”
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« Reply #266 on: October 07, 2010, 06:58:PM »


If she left the Catholic faith, she denies it.

She may pray, but if she's abandoned God's Church, this prayer alone won't save her.

Our Blessed Lord and Savior said that not everyone who cries "Lord, Lord!" shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Although she never exactly has left the Catholic faith...she was raised Catholic but calls herself a Christian and she has not abandoned God's church because quite clearly she goes to church whenever she can, just not EVERY single Sunday.

But going to church does not make one a Catholic. Countless non-Catholic Christians go to church every Sunday but refuse to go to a Catholic Church.

Christ said in Scripture that, unless one eats His Body and drinks His Blood, that person will not have life within him.

The Catholic Church (or the Orthodox Church) is the only Church at which one can receive the Body and Blood of Christ.

How can she be fulfilling God's commandment if she does not go to a Catholic Church to receive the sacraments?

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Its like I consider myself Christian-Catholic...I don't deny the church and I've never abandoned the church...I try to go every Sunday...but unfortunately I can't go EVERY Sunday to church...because sometimes their are issues that come up ...I don't go to church when I rightly know that I have a cold...because I don't want to spread germs to anyone else, or sometimes something else happens. I realize I may not be a traditional Catholic...although I love masses in latin...they're done so well...and I have not given up on God...I was raised Catholic as well.


That is good that you have never abandoned the Church. I will remember you in my rosary intentions this evening--that you and I both remain always faithful to God and to His Church.
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“Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time” (2 Peter 1:10).

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« Reply #267 on: October 07, 2010, 07:10:PM »

How can she be fulfilling God's commandment if she does not go to a Catholic Church to receive the sacraments?
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 Huh? she does go to church just not every Sunday and she believes in God and does not deny anything about her faith or the church. I go to church...just not every Sunday...just because someone does not go to church every sunday does not mean they are not Catholic. 

That is good that you have never abandoned the Church. I will remember you in my rosary intentions this evening--that you and I both remain always faithful to God and to His Church.

Thank you Smile
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"Everyone, please hold hands," August directs as his father, then his mother, says grace. They give thanks for the food, their health, the beautiful day, and the company of friends. They ask for guidance and to grow closer to God.
Though Hargitay and Hermann met at work, their first real date was at his church. "It was pretty sacred and profound in our life," Hargitay says. "It completely set the tone for our relationship and our marriage."
Though she was raised Catholic and has a very strong faith, Hargitay calls herself a Christian who doesn't go to church every Sunday. "Religion has caused wars and also a lot of pain, and I don't think that's what God intended," she says with quiet conviction. "I find faith to be a more private thing. For me, it's about my personal relationship with God. I think God has a plan, and a big one. I try to live in gratitude and awe and to get to know Him better and pray that He helps guide me in the decisions I make."
She believes in signs. And on that day, in that church, an inner voice told her that she had not gotten married yet because she had been waiting for Hermann. "I had been engaged before, but what I felt for Peter I had never felt before — it was knowing that someone else put you first and that you put him first. A lot of people have doubts on their wedding day, but I was never so sure and happy. We were going into the unknown together and were taking care of each other the way you're supposed to when you are married."
Wed for six years now, Hargitay describes her marriage as the perfect balance of opposites: "I bring him out, he brings me in; he slows me down, I make him go faster." -Mariska Hargitay

When Mariska Hargitay, Costar of the TV series “Law and Order: Special Victims Unit,” was asked about positive influences in her life, she responded with this comment on the sister from her high school who encouraged her to reach her full potential:

“If there’s such thing as cheering silently, that’s what I felt Sister Margaret always did for me.  I saw it in her eyes, and it meant the world to me.  Of course she encouraged me out loud as well, but knowing that someone was holding hope and faith for me inside herself made an enormous difference in my life.  I hope I have the opportunity to pass along that gift.”
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« Reply #268 on: October 07, 2010, 07:25:PM »

Huh? she does go to church just not every Sunday and she believes in God and does not deny anything about her faith or the church. I go to church...just not every Sunday...just because someone does not go to church every sunday does not mean they are not Catholic. 

Does she believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist?

Does she receive the Body and Blood of Christ when she goes to church?
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“Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time” (2 Peter 1:10).

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« Reply #269 on: October 07, 2010, 08:35:PM »

For those who say it's a sin: what now of people who got tattoos before converting? Are they doomed to Hell now?
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