Tattoos

[INPEFESS]

So what would happen if someone had a naughty naughty tattoo and converted to Catholicism? Please enlighten us, O Dark Lancer.

Well, since he asked the question, he probably doesn't know.

How many people ask questions when they know the answer? (oops, whatever, but I think the concern for tattoos is very important and I was the first to vote for "mortal sin" actually, as most know, I am very much against altering the body for reasons unnecessary, but this isn't really applicable to everyone, because intent and knowledge are so important. I think it would be a mortal sin for me to cut my hair without grave need for the sole fact I intentional have not cut it or done anything to it for the sole purpose of avoiding vanity).

And yet, somehow, he STILL manages to have better hair than some of us...

You mean that in trying to avoid vanity, he is actually guilty of it by placing so much emphasis and importance on the non-removal of hair?

[Rosarium]

You mean that in trying to avoid vanity, he is actually guilty of it by placing so much emphasis and importance on the non-removal of hair?

That is possible, but not true. If it were a source of known vanity, I'd cut it all.

However, there is a grain of truth. As I said, it is natural and I do not alter it. I happen to be healthy and well nourished, so it reflects this. God designed it...so there is an element of beauty inherent.

I mentioned on another thread I do not wash myself often. When I do, I do not use soap (I use abrasion and water). This results in my skin and hair retaining their natural protection and layers. So, my skin and hair are very healthy (people are getting killed by marketing. We do not need to do anything but keep ourselves actually clean. This means washing when dirty, not regularly, and not damaging ourselves in the process. People comment on my skin (mostly girls when discussing my hands, which for some reason gets some attention. I guess this is probably universal) and hair, yet are totally repulsed when they learn I only bathe about once a month and haven't actually used any soap or shampoo on my hair for over 7 years. They are the ones with the frizzy, dried, damaged hair and all the bottles of things they buy. They get the dried skin, chapped lips and acne. God knew what He was doing when designing us).

However, it is a source of vanity not. It is not my doing. I gain nothing from it. I have my health now and a strong genetic background, yet this is only for now. Anything can happen and it is not my will.

[dark lancer]

You mean that in trying to avoid vanity, he is actually guilty of it by placing so much emphasis and importance on the non-removal of hair?

That is possible, but not true. If it were a source of known vanity, I'd cut it all.

However, there is a grain of truth. As I said, it is natural and I do not alter it. I happen to be healthy and well nourished, so it reflects this. God designed it...so there is an element of beauty inherent.

I mentioned on another thread I do not wash myself often. When I do, I do not use soap (I use abrasion and water). This results in my skin and hair retaining their natural protection and layers. So, my skin and hair are very healthy (people are getting killed by marketing. We do not need to do anything but keep ourselves actually clean. This means washing when dirty, not regularly, and not damaging ourselves in the process. People comment on my skin (mostly girls when discussing my hands, which for some reason gets some attention. I guess this is probably universal) and hair, yet are totally repulsed when they learn I only bathe about once a month and haven't actually used any soap or shampoo on my hair for over 7 years. They are the ones with the frizzy, dried, damaged hair and all the bottles of things they buy. They get the dried skin, chapped lips and acne. God knew what He was doing when designing us).

However, it is a source of vanity not. It is not my doing. I gain nothing from it. I have my health now and a strong genetic background, yet this is only for now. Anything can happen and it is not my will.

Well now I feel bad for getting a haircut every three months and managing my hair into some manner of style, and for showering and using hygienic products in order to prevent myself from offending others with my body odors.

I can just picture my parish priest in Confession upon hearing me Confess the mortal sins of hair cuts and using shampoo, soap, deodorant and shaving razors.

[INPEFESS]

You mean that in trying to avoid vanity, he is actually guilty of it by placing so much emphasis and importance on the non-removal of hair?

That is possible, but not true. If it were a source of known vanity, I'd cut it all.

This is good.

However, there is a grain of truth. As I said, it is natural and I do not alter it. I happen to be healthy and well nourished, so it reflects this. God designed it...so there is an element of beauty inherent.

Of course.

I mentioned on another thread I do not wash myself often. When I do, I do not use soap (I use abrasion and water). This results in my skin and hair retaining their natural protection and layers. So, my skin and hair are very healthy (people are getting killed by marketing. We do not need to do anything but keep ourselves actually clean. This means washing when dirty, not regularly, and not damaging ourselves in the process. People comment on my skin (mostly girls when discussing my hands, which for some reason gets some attention. I guess this is probably universal) and hair, yet are totally repulsed when they learn I only bathe about once a month and haven't actually used any soap or shampoo on my hair for over 7 years. They are the ones with the frizzy, dried, damaged hair and all the bottles of things they buy. They get the dried skin, chapped lips and acne. God knew what He was doing when designing us).

You might be interested to know that I am the same way.  

I do not shy away from these practices because of a perceived sinfulness of them. Rather, I avoid them because they are mostly not necessary.

However, it is a source of vanity not. It is not my doing. I gain nothing from it. I have my health now and a strong genetic background, yet this is only for now. Anything can happen and it is not my will.

Fiat voluntas Dei.

[Rosarium]

So what would happen if someone had a naughty naughty tattoo and converted to Catholicism? Please enlighten us, O Dark Lancer.

Well, since he asked the question, he probably doesn't know.

How many people ask questions when they know the answer? (oops, whatever, but I think the concern for tattoos is very important and I was the first to vote for "mortal sin" actually, as most know, I am very much against altering the body for reasons unnecessary, but this isn't really applicable to everyone, because intent and knowledge are so important. I think it would be a mortal sin for me to cut my hair without grave need for the sole fact I intentional have not cut it or done anything to it for the sole purpose of avoiding vanity).

And yet, somehow, he STILL manages to have better hair than some of us...

Genetics aside, if anyone wants healthy hair:

* Do not use shampoos or conditioners at all
* Eat fresh fruits, vegetables and other plants, especially fatty ones every day. This should form the bulk of the diet.
* Only comb hair once a day, and only to the extent necessary. Comb from the ends and work your way up.
* Don't cut it differently. Let it grow freely and then if necessary keep the overall length in check. Cutting hair in layers or the hair in the front drastically different lengths just adds more work.
* Don't add anything to hair.
* Tying it is not a problem, but there shouldn't be tension on the roots.

The myths of all the bottles of chemicals and extensive rituals to keep one's hair pretty is all false. It is counter productive.

It will, in a healthy person, feel strange at first as the oil is added back, but with a healthy diet and following these practices, it will reach a point where it is optimal then it will not change. If you don't keep removing it, it won't get oily. It will develop a natural scent, that of a person (rather than chemical strawberries, or fake tropical fruit or whatever), but it isn't strong and no one will notice. Natural scent is very pleasant to humans. The only cause of body odour would be unnatural chemicals or bacteria.

[Rosarium]

Well now I feel bad for getting a haircut every three months and managing my hair into some manner of style,

Style is something I avoid.

and for showering and using hygienic products in order to prevent myself from offending others with my body odors.

I wash when dirty. I do not have offensive body odour. I do, because I wear clothes covering my entire body, use baking soda based deodorant to prevent anything from developing in my arm pits though. I use baking soda to keep my teeth clean from the foods I eat which are not very natural.

I can just picture my parish priest in Confession upon hearing me Confess the mortal sins of hair cuts and using shampoo, soap, deodorant and shaving razors.

The sin is not in the use of these objects, but in the intent of a person.

I am not prone to following the habits of other people. People largely just follow the rituals they were taught. I do not do things because they are not necessary or even useful. Why are they done? Habit, mostly. Why do people choose to do them? Vanity.

You think tattoos are probably bad right? Would it be reasonable to confess having someone stick needles in one's skin to make an image in it?

Would it be reasonable to confess altering the appearance of the body for the sake of being pleasing to a godless society?

[dark lancer]

So what would happen if someone had a naughty naughty tattoo and converted to Catholicism? Please enlighten us, O Dark Lancer.

Well, since he asked the question, he probably doesn't know.

How many people ask questions when they know the answer? (oops, whatever, but I think the concern for tattoos is very important and I was the first to vote for "mortal sin" actually, as most know, I am very much against altering the body for reasons unnecessary, but this isn't really applicable to everyone, because intent and knowledge are so important. I think it would be a mortal sin for me to cut my hair without grave need for the sole fact I intentional have not cut it or done anything to it for the sole purpose of avoiding vanity).

And yet, somehow, he STILL manages to have better hair than some of us...

Genetics aside, if anyone wants healthy hair:

* Do not use shampoos or conditioners at all
* Eat fresh fruits, vegetables and other plants, especially fatty ones every day. This should form the bulk of the diet.
* Only comb hair once a day, and only to the extent necessary. Comb from the ends and work your way up.
* Don't cut it differently. Let it grow freely and then if necessary keep the overall length in check. Cutting hair in layers or the hair in the front drastically different lengths just adds more work.
* Don't add anything to hair.
* Tying it is not a problem, but there shouldn't be tension on the roots.

The myths of all the bottles of chemicals and extensive rituals to keep one's hair pretty is all false. It is counter productive.

It will, in a healthy person, feel strange at first as the oil is added back, but with a healthy diet and following these practices, it will reach a point where it is optimal then it will not change. If you don't keep removing it, it won't get oily. It will develop a natural scent, that of a person (rather than chemical strawberries, or fake tropical fruit or whatever), but it isn't strong and no one will notice. Natural scent is very pleasant to humans. The only cause of body odour would be unnatural chemicals or bacteria.

Sorry, I am not going to go through life with perpetually unmanageable bed-hair based on some forum poster's personal grooming opinions.

[Rosarium]

Sorry, I am not going to go through life with perpetually unmanageable bed-hair based on some forum poster's personal grooming opinions.

I think you completely missed the point. Literally a minute with my comb is enough to be presentable for job interviews, church and work.

I also think you are mistaking my statements for judgements on other people or prescriptions for others to follow. I do not care what other people do.

In case you don't know, when one's hair is a natural length, it is very easy to manage. The only real issue is tangling, which is easy to get rid of when one gets up. If one doesn't want it to naturally form dreads, then tying it back is the easiest way to keep it out of the way of modern life. Even in wind, it isn't a problem (in fact, my beard takes more time to get straight because I can't tie it fully and it really can't be tied, unless I separate the hair starting above my lips so I don't tie my mouth shut, and then it makes my "moustache" stand out too much).

[DeiMateralma]

So what would happen if someone had a naughty naughty tattoo and converted to Catholicism? Please enlighten us, O Dark Lancer.

Well, since he asked the question, he probably doesn't know.

How many people ask questions when they know the answer? (oops, whatever, but I think the concern for tattoos is very important and I was the first to vote for "mortal sin" actually, as most know, I am very much against altering the body for reasons unnecessary, but this isn't really applicable to everyone, because intent and knowledge are so important. I think it would be a mortal sin for me to cut my hair without grave need for the sole fact I intentional have not cut it or done anything to it for the sole purpose of avoiding vanity).

And yet, somehow, he STILL manages to have better hair than some of us...

You mean that in trying to avoid vanity, he is actually guilty of it by placing so much emphasis and importance on the non-removal of hair?

Actually, I just meant has has better hair than I do.  *sigh*

[ruralpeace]

Tattoos are not art. They are vanity.

We are suppose to detach....  And all this vain talk of glorifying God with a tattoo...  How about glorifying God by mortifying your passion and desire for a tattoo??

We should decrease. So He can Increase.

+JMJ+