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« Reply #110 on: October 10, 2010, 10:53:AM » |
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Reconcile bloodsports with Exodus 20:13.
No one has ever been killed in football nor is injuring an opponent the point of the game. It happens incidentally, but that's possible with any sport or hobby. The difference between football and baseball is simply that the nature of the sport happens to bring about more unwanted injuries, unfortunately. But you can injure yourself while skiing too. Or gardening. Your argument is weak. It might work for something like UFC or boxing, but football is about running a ball into an endzone, not beating the crap out of somebody. You continue to ignore the fact that in full-contact football, tackles and hard falls are a natural course of game play. Regardless of the intent of someone tackling another player, injuries not fully mitigated by equipment still occur on a frequent basis, often resulting in permanent damage. Players may not be killed, but they are needlessly destroying their bodies for your entertainment, not unlike in dog fighting. Once again, the only difference between dog fighting and full-contact football is consent of the participants. So it's sinful because injuries can happen? Get out of here. Do you expect people to sit indoors in a bubble all day? Crazy idea...some people are actually competitive and like the thrill of victory. Maybe its "needless destroying" if your some sort of baby. |
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« Reply #111 on: October 10, 2010, 10:53:AM » |
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Lancer your not going to find any converts here. We like Football, the players like Football. So everyone is happy. Go troll somewhere else.
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« Reply #112 on: October 10, 2010, 12:07:PM » |
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While God is obviously a baseball fan foremost, I have no reason to think that he dislikes Football.
The question is whether he cheers for the Cardinals or the Saints-- that is, whether he prefers the Church Militant or the Church Triumphant.
True, but he definitely would not be cheering for the Royals during his preferred baseball season, he's a stout Angels fan (Go Halos!) |
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« Reply #113 on: October 10, 2010, 01:55:PM » |
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While God is obviously a baseball fan foremost, I have no reason to think that he dislikes Football.
The question is whether he cheers for the Cardinals or the Saints-- that is, whether he prefers the Church Militant or the Church Triumphant.
True, but he definitely would not be cheering for the Royals during his preferred baseball season, he's a stout Angels fan (Go Halos!) There is little evidence that God is a Kansas City Royals fan. Yet still, I can't help but think that at least some of the beatitudes should apply to my home town team. |
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« Reply #114 on: October 10, 2010, 02:28:PM » |
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The Royals are indeed meek.
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"It is questionable whether the proper functions of Catholics is to hunt down, "expose" and condemn Catholics they suspect of undue rigidity, disobedience or "material schism"; especially while giving support to a Vatican ecumenical campaign which addresses heretics and actual Schismatics as "separated brethren", Jews as "people of the covenant" and Muslims as "people of God". This is part of the overall contradiction (or inconsistency) that permeates the "conservative" mentality. Cloaked in a pledged loyalty to all things "whatsoever" emanating from the Holy See, many "conservatives" will go beyond the measures taken by the Church leaders, or even disagree with their actual positions. The Hawaii "excommunications" were an obvious example but others can be seen. "Conservatives" denounce as "Schismatic" all those who set foot in SSPX chapels while the Vatican embraces the Schismatics in China. "Conservatives" deny any significant change at the Second Vatican Council while the Pope celebrates the enormity and impact of the changes. "Conservatives" seek the conversion of the Eastern "Orthodox" while the Vatican promises not to "proselytize" them. "Conservatives" deride American bishops while the Pope appoints and promotes the same ones." -Peter Miller "Tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society When an immoral society has blatantly and proudly violated all the commandments, it insists upon one last virtue, tolerance for its immorality. It will not tolerate condemnation of its perversions. It creates a whole new world in which only the intolerant critic of intolerable evil is evil." - H. Gibson(5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) ≠ 722,500 |
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« Reply #115 on: October 10, 2010, 04:48:PM » |
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Lancer your not going to find any converts here. We like Football, the players like Football. So everyone is happy. Go troll somewhere else.
Is God happy? Of course and He's a Denver fan. |
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« Reply #116 on: October 10, 2010, 08:23:PM » |
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Reconcile bloodsports with Exodus 20:13.
No one has ever been killed in football nor is injuring an opponent the point of the game. It happens incidentally, but that's possible with any sport or hobby. The difference between football and baseball is simply that the nature of the sport happens to bring about more unwanted injuries, unfortunately. But you can injure yourself while skiing too. Or gardening. Your argument is weak. It might work for something like UFC or boxing, but football is about running a ball into an endzone, not beating the crap out of somebody. You continue to ignore the fact that in full-contact football, tackles and hard falls are a natural course of game play. Regardless of the intent of someone tackling another player, injuries not fully mitigated by equipment still occur on a frequent basis, often resulting in permanent damage. Players may not be killed, but they are needlessly destroying their bodies for your entertainment, not unlike in dog fighting. Once again, the only difference between dog fighting and full-contact football is consent of the participants. So it's sinful because injuries can happen? Get out of here. Do you expect people to sit indoors in a bubble all day? Crazy idea...some people are actually competitive and like the thrill of victory. Maybe its "needless destroying" if your some sort of baby. No, it's sinful because players are put to unnecessary risk for the entertainment of fans, making it a bloodsport. If the rules were changed so that tackling or otherwise knocking over a player to prevent advancement of the ball was an illegal action, then it would not be a bloodsport. This is why flag football is ideal. |
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« Reply #117 on: October 10, 2010, 10:52:PM » |
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This is why flag football is ideal.
For middle school girls. |
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« Reply #118 on: October 10, 2010, 10:53:PM » |
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This is why flag football is ideal.
For middle school girls. It is disturbing that your gut reaction to my last post is about middle school girls. |
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« Reply #119 on: October 10, 2010, 10:54:PM » |
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What an exciting game the 49ers eagles was. Great fun. 4th quarter was nail biting.
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