what's your iq?

[icecream]

i'd say most people here have above average iq. i think i read that tradtional catholics aremore intellectualy accomplished than regualr catholics

[Resurrexi]

i'd say most people here have above average iq. i think i read that tradtional catholics aremore intellectualy accomplished than regualr catholics

Or perhaps internet forum with intellectual discussions concerning matters such as religion happen to attract many people with higher IQs? Remember, not every Joe Catholic that you meet at your local FSSP chapel happens to be interested in reading trad fora.

[Satori]

IQ means a lot; it correlates strongly with success in all areas of life.  But it's nothing to brag about, because you didn't earn it or develop it.  You were born with it, so bragging about it would be like bragging about being tall or having good cheekbones.  That's also why people don't like to hear about your (supposedly) big IQ: they can't do anything about theirs, so it's like you're a 7-foot-tall guy holding their dessert out of reach and laughing at them.

By the way, 120 makes you almost as smart as George W. Bush.

(Also by the way, if anyone is tempted to say, "I know a homeless genius, so a high IQ doesn't guarantee success," please look up the word "correlate" first.)

Actually, beyond about 120-130, there are no significant income or occupational improvements. Quite the opposite in fact. Now go look up the word 'correlate.'

that may be true, but if you have 170 iq you can write stuff like herr and quis. you can be intellectual giant. if you count all of quis posts in last year you;d probably have enough for 5 books. he can write long post, that is good, in 5 minutes, whereas the resst of us need to work on something like that for a week or more

Not to put down Herr or Quis, who are obviously smart, quantity doesn't mean much. Danielle Steele has written dozens of books, and they suck.

[Rosarium]

IQ means a lot; it correlates strongly with success in all areas of life.  But it's nothing to brag about, because you didn't earn it or develop it.  You were born with it, so bragging about it would be like bragging about being tall or having good cheekbones.  That's also why people don't like to hear about your (supposedly) big IQ: they can't do anything about theirs, so it's like you're a 7-foot-tall guy holding their dessert out of reach and laughing at them.

By the way, 120 makes you almost as smart as George W. Bush.

(Also by the way, if anyone is tempted to say, "I know a homeless genius, so a high IQ doesn't guarantee success," please look up the word "correlate" first.)

Actually, beyond about 120-130, there are no significant income or occupational improvements. Quite the opposite in fact. Now go look up the word 'correlate.'

that may be true, but if you have 170 iq you can write stuff like herr and quis. you can be intellectual giant. if you count all of quis posts in last year you;d probably have enough for 5 books. he can write long post, that is good, in 5 minutes, whereas the resst of us need to work on something like that for a week or more

Not to put down Herr or Quis, who are obviously smart, quantity doesn't mean much. Danielle Steele has written dozens of books, and they suck.

And I assume that Quis who is a programmer and works in computers is a fast typist like myself. Programming results in the ability to touch type even symbols and numbers because of its necessity. Being a fast typist may indicate a higher intelligence of motor skills, but the quality of what is written is independent from one's ability to type it. If I were dyslexic, I could still write what I do, but it would take a lot longer and I may be discouraged from posting much because of the effort required. Or, I could be like dk and post no matter what is typed out.

[Mhoram]

But in general, from what I have seen, most very smart people need -- don't just want -- to be with someone else who is smart. And it may take years to find that person.

That's true; IQ is a strong factor in assortive mating, whether people know their IQs or not.  Of course, a lot of people meet their spouses in a classroom or workplace, where they may be grouped with people of similar abilities, so that could account for some of it.

Actually, beyond about 120-130, there are no significant income or occupational improvements. Quite the opposite in fact.

According to what I've read, job performance keeps increasing at higher IQs, but income stagnates.  That's not surprising, since 125 is plenty high to be a doctor, lawyer, president, or other high-paid profession.  Higher than that might lead you into higher mathematics or theoretical physics, which might pay you enough to be comfortable, but not super wealthy.  Also, I think super-geniuses tend to be fairly complacent about money, because they know they'll always be able to figure out ways to make enough to get by.

i think i read that tradtional catholics aremore intellectualy accomplished than regualr catholics

I used to think so.....

[Rosarium]

But in general, from what I have seen, most very smart people need -- don't just want -- to be with someone else who is smart. And it may take years to find that person.

That's true; IQ is a strong factor in assortive mating, whether people know their IQs or not.  Of course, a lot of people meet their spouses in a classroom or workplace, where they may be grouped with people of similar abilities, so that could account for some of it.

Also, people with significantly different IQs interact differently. The person with a high IQ may be bored or extremely amused by the other (I've known people mismatched like this) and the person with the lower, even if average, may be intimidated. I've known people who did not want to talk to me online (people I knew in real life) because they feared I would use "big words" (which they claim I do in RL, but they rarely can point out which individual word is big...they are just not used to statements with such meaning) and they felt they would be required to match me. The truth: people with high IQs would not associate with people if they felt superior. It is sort of like being tall. An admired quality which gets one a lot of attention which may have negative consequences to the extent a person may wish to be (or appear) average.

According to what I've read, job performance keeps increasing at higher IQs, but income stagnates.  That's not surprising, since 125 is plenty high to be a doctor, lawyer, president, or other high-paid profession.  Higher than that might lead you into higher mathematics or theoretical physics, which might pay you enough to be comfortable, but not super wealthy.  Also, I think super-geniuses tend to be fairly complacent about money, because they know they'll always be able to figure out ways to make enough to get by.

People at work always ask me why I work there. I say "for money". They seem to think one can get paid for being smart.

[Mhoram]

I forgot to add: the fact that IQ correlates well with success is the main reason it's stupid to brag about it.  Think about it: if you have a high IQ but you've been knocking around at minimum wage jobs all your life, anyone you brag to is naturally going to think, "So, what's your problem then?  Why aren't you splitting atoms or testing cancer cures on monkeys or something?"  (Or he'll just think you're lying.)  If you brag about your high IQ and you don't have any accomplishments to go with it, you're basically telling people you're lazy or have some kind of emotional problem that keeps you from doing anything useful with your brain.

On the other hand, if you've got a high IQ and accomplishments to go with it, you're going to brag about the accomplishments, not the genetic trait your parents gave you that made the accomplishments possible.  NBA champions brag about their rings, not about how tall they are.

[icecream]

i'd say most people here have above average iq. i think i read that tradtional catholics aremore intellectualy accomplished than regualr catholics

Or perhaps internet forum with intellectual discussions concerning matters such as religion happen to attract many people with higher IQs? Remember, not every Joe Catholic that you meet at your local FSSP chapel happens to be interested in reading trad fora.

that could be true, sounds right

[icecream]

IQ means a lot; it correlates strongly with success in all areas of life.  But it's nothing to brag about, because you didn't earn it or develop it.  You were born with it, so bragging about it would be like bragging about being tall or having good cheekbones.  That's also why people don't like to hear about your (supposedly) big IQ: they can't do anything about theirs, so it's like you're a 7-foot-tall guy holding their dessert out of reach and laughing at them.

By the way, 120 makes you almost as smart as George W. Bush.

(Also by the way, if anyone is tempted to say, "I know a homeless genius, so a high IQ doesn't guarantee success," please look up the word "correlate" first.)

Actually, beyond about 120-130, there are no significant income or occupational improvements. Quite the opposite in fact. Now go look up the word 'correlate.'

that may be true, but if you have 170 iq you can write stuff like herr and quis. you can be intellectual giant. if you count all of quis posts in last year you;d probably have enough for 5 books. he can write long post, that is good, in 5 minutes, whereas the resst of us need to work on something like that for a week or more

Not to put down Herr or Quis, who are obviously smart, quantity doesn't mean much. Danielle Steele has written dozens of books, and they suck.

i agrre . i said "he can write long post, that is good, in 5 minutes."

[icecream]

i think i read that tradtional catholics aremore intellectualy accomplished than regualr catholics

I used to think so.....

don't worry mhoram im not tradtional catholic so i won't be sullying tradcath gene pool anytime soon ;D