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INPEFESS
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 08:28:PM »
Quote from: Iuvenalis
Maybe I'm still hung up on the whole 'unity' thing and the 'visibility' marks (Matt 5:14-15) and that's why I'm not 100% certain? I mean, I have a hard time understanding how we can be fractious and still be "Catholic" and how this is any different that what Protestants do. However, the other part of me feels like I'm just stating the obvious. That is, Trads aren't welcome, they're 'tolerated' and usually they're not even tolerated. So I'm not leaving, the rest of the Church is or has departed from the Traditional Catholic Faith (IMO). I'm not 'un-Catholic,' I'm just 'Catholic,' and this indifferentism in the guise of ecumenism (unless you're a Traditional Catholic btw), the ecumenism itself, and the 'innovations' are the departure from the Faith, not the SSPX, not the Trads...

You can't be too far off because Pope S. Pius X agrees with you. It is precisely because of Catholic indifference that this crisis has spread so far, that heresy is so rampant, and that the Church is in the lamentable condition in which we find Her today. We mustn't be part of that indifference, of that negligence, or of that compromise while hiding behind the mask of obedience to fallible men promoting their errors via a fallible teaching capacity.

"To the laws of evolution everything is subject - dogma, Church, worship, the Books we revere as sacred, even faith itself, and the penalty of disobedience is death." (Pope S. Pius X, Pascendi Dominici Gregis)
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“Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time” (2 Peter 1:10).
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2010, 10:19:PM »
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From the pulpit, the priest said that he had just received a call from one of his NO superiors telling him that he was excommunicated for joining the SSPX.   



He got his first merit badge...he should celebrate!
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2010, 12:49:AM »
Quote from: AndreasAngelopolitanus
Quote from: Iuvenalis

So, I took a look at the SSPX, which is seemingly surprisingly absent as well. I mean, they have a chapel, but it's Mass schedule and location were a bit interesting as well. I'm so surprised that the next nearest was 1.5 hours away (so 3 hours round trip) in a diocese this large, and with arguably the most liberal Abp in the US, I can't believe there's not more SSPX to 'serve' what must be legions of dispossessed 'trads' but I digress...
This presumes the SSPX has the wherewithal to buy a suitable building (or land, on which to build upon) in our pricey part of the country.   ;)

The two SSPX chapels were inherited (as was another chapel within the confines of a nearby diocese).  The chapel you attended this week had a wealthy benefactor to get the ball rolling.

And in LA there are plenty other wealthy benefactors to go with our pricey real estate.

So, I'm still surprised...
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"It is questionable whether the proper functions of Catholics is to hunt down, "expose" and condemn Catholics they suspect of undue rigidity, disobedience or "material schism"; especially while giving support to a Vatican ecumenical campaign which addresses heretics and actual Schismatics as "separated brethren", Jews as "people of the covenant" and Muslims as "people of God". This is part of the overall contradiction (or inconsistency) that permeates the "conservative" mentality. Cloaked in a pledged loyalty to all things "whatsoever" emanating from the Holy See, many "conservatives" will go beyond the measures taken by the Church leaders, or even disagree with their actual positions. The Hawaii "excommunications" were an obvious example but others can be seen. "Conservatives" denounce as "Schismatic" all those who set foot in SSPX chapels while the Vatican embraces the Schismatics in China. "Conservatives" deny any significant change at the Second Vatican Council while the Pope celebrates the enormity and impact of the changes. "Conservatives" seek the conversion of the Eastern "Orthodox" while the Vatican promises not to "proselytize" them. "Conservatives" deride American bishops while the Pope appoints and promotes the same ones." -Peter Miller


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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2010, 05:54:PM »
Quote from: Iuvenalis
And in LA there are plenty other wealthy benefactors to go with our pricey real estate.

So, I'm still surprised...

Meh... "big money" went to build the Cathedral.  Those folks don't go to SSPX chapels. 


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Arreptisque Nadab et Abiu, filii Aaron, turibulis posuerunt ignem et incensum desuper, offerentes coram Domino ignem alienum quod eis praeceptum non erat.  Egressusque ignis a Domino devoravit eos et mortui sunt coram Domino.  Loose Translation:  Don't monkey around with the Mass.

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