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Author Topic: Divorce, feminism, some connections between them, etc.  (Read 2775 times)
Iolanthe
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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2010, 02:53:PM »

I do treat ladies LADIES with respect. Not angry, clip haired, lesbo feminists.

lolanthe you are one sick little witch. I think I am going to avoid you now.

I did cut my hair fairly recently.  Huh?

Do I know you? You sound just like one of my guy friends.
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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2010, 03:00:PM »

I do treat ladies LADIES with respect. Not angry, clip haired, lesbo feminists.

lolanthe you are one sick little witch. I think I am going to avoid you now.

Perhaps you could avoid me too.  I have little interest in interacting with a person who writes such things.
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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2010, 03:02:PM »

From his general demeanor, one has to wonder what Baskerville's definition of ladylike behavior is...
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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2010, 07:34:PM »

Oh and you both see feminism everywhere like a couple of paranoid rednecks.
And you don't see it anywhere like a mindless dingbat.



I'm really tired of being attacked and insulted on this forum by the men here. Men like you, James, Baskerville, etc., are what drive people away from the Faith.
Really? What faith is that? Surely we're not describing traditional Catholicism here.

Anyway dropping you're spiritual beliefs over something as trivial as an perceived insult from anonymous internet users doesn't seem like soundthinking to me.


Then again.
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2010, 07:43:PM »


Actually I blame the feminist movement for a lot of barren, unhappy WOMEN.


My flatmate is a non-Catholic and not even religious. She's pretty, educated, loves kids, and has a fun personality. She has told me more than once that she believes in traditional gender roles and would like to get married; she thinks men should act like men and has no interested in feminism. And yet--she's NOT married. Do you know why? Because 99% of the guys she knows or has dated are uninterested in the responsibility of family life and would rather spend their lives selfishly getting drunk and sleeping around.

Feminism is not the cause of the breakdown of family life. It's men refusing to act like men. If you weren't living in such a bubble, and didn't have such a big-fish-small-pond complex, you might be able to see this.
You know lulu, I actually agree with you here.


But feminism, the Betty Friedan- Gloria Steinam type does exist and is a cancer to our women and the traditional family as we know it.

So let's stop playing games here and at least recognize this plague for what it is.

Then we can move on to the man- child and frat-boy behavior.
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To defend oneself, one must also be ready to die. There is little such readiness in a society raised in the cult of material well-being. Nothing is left, then, but concessions, attempts to gain time, and betrayal.
--- Alexander Solzhenitsyn


"Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it."
-St. Augustine Doctor of the Church

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell

There is no limit to investigating the truth; until you discover it.
- Cicero


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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2010, 07:49:PM »

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I am amazed at the mind that is capable of putting Alaric, Baskerville and James in the same category.

Yeah, not even close.  Alaric is much more tolerant of moslems than me.
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2010, 07:50:PM »

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You know lulu, I actually agree with you here.
Yep, give her credit on that one.
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"God's Wrath is Glorious, and I have a front row seat"

"We can not guarantee success.  We can only deserve it."

"And who do you say that I Am?"
"That one simple question, whether Jesus of Nazareth was God Incarnate, becomes increasingly decisive between people, as history moves forward. .... The answer to this question cuts into human ties and seems to reflect even on the nature of inanimate things.  What if:  all that is folly in the eyes of the Greeks, and scandal in the eyes of the Jews, ... is Truth?"

And there was no doubt about it -- towards Him we had been running, or from Him we had been running away, but all the time He had been in the center of things.
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2010, 08:07:PM »

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I am amazed at the mind that is capable of putting Alaric, Baskerville and James in the same category.

Yeah, not even close.  Alaric is much more tolerant of moslems than me.
Yes, but much less tolerant of femi-nazi's. (Which is really a terrible slur to female National Socialists)

Ironically, the feminists that did the most damage to the culture were Jewish.
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To defend oneself, one must also be ready to die. There is little such readiness in a society raised in the cult of material well-being. Nothing is left, then, but concessions, attempts to gain time, and betrayal.
--- Alexander Solzhenitsyn


"Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it."
-St. Augustine Doctor of the Church

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell

There is no limit to investigating the truth; until you discover it.
- Cicero
Iolanthe
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« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2010, 08:09:AM »

But feminism, the Betty Friedan- Gloria Steinam type does exist and is a cancer to our women and the traditional family as we know it.

Second-wave feminism is outdated. I think most women in their twenties and thirties would only have a hazy idea of who Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinam are. (I only know about The Feminine Mystique from the scene in the movie Ten Things  I Hate About You.) I'm not saying the serious side effects from early feminism aren't around; obviously things like birth control and abortion are very much present. But overall among young women the kind of "clipped haired lesbo" feminism that many people on this board rage about really just doesn't exist. In fact, in the past decade or so there has been a movement of women giving up their careers to care for their kids full-time because they see the benefits of it and the bad effects of spending a childhood in daycare. Many of them probably grew up in households like that and don't want to put their own children through it. I honestly believe that "feminism" is word that has lost it's meaning. Whether for or against it, people use it to mean what they want it to mean. If it means anything at all now, it's that women are supposed to be good at everything--feminine and kind, educated, successful, good housekeepers, beautiful, financially independent, maternal, self-sufficient, etc. etc. This is the "perfect woman" that modern men expect to have for the asking without expecting to give anything in return, and until they find it, they have no interest in settling down or "committing." That's feminism. It is and has always been a cover for men to shirk responsibility and increase their sense of entitlement. 

I'm not saying that modern women aren't selfish, too. Obviously, the most visible effects of this are contraception and materialism. But I get a little tired of people acting like men have no responsibility in the breakdown of family (if it has broken down all that much--which it hasn't, completely) all the while saying men are the leaders. Well, if you're the leaders, then lead. Don't sit back and complain about women and do nothing. And most young men are conditioned by society to be takers, not leaders.
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"Tenthly, one should pour tea into the cup first. This is one of the most controversial points of all; indeed in every family in Britain there are probably two schools of thought on the subject. The milk-first school can bring forward some fairly strong arguments, but I maintain that my own argument is unanswerable. This is that, by putting the tea in first and stirring as one pours, one can exactly regulate the amount of milk, whereas one is liable to put in too much milk if one does it the other way round."
George Orwell
Iolanthe
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« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2010, 08:20:AM »

Gloria Steinam is Christian Bale's stepmother.  :o :o :o
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"Tenthly, one should pour tea into the cup first. This is one of the most controversial points of all; indeed in every family in Britain there are probably two schools of thought on the subject. The milk-first school can bring forward some fairly strong arguments, but I maintain that my own argument is unanswerable. This is that, by putting the tea in first and stirring as one pours, one can exactly regulate the amount of milk, whereas one is liable to put in too much milk if one does it the other way round."
George Orwell
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