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Author Topic: Pope did NOT claim child porn is Normal  (Read 1870 times)
faith3faith
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« on: December 22, 2010, 04:57:PM »

I read the entire statement and he clearly did not claim child porn is normal
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 05:05:PM »

I'm having a hard time reading your bias, f3f, so I'll just post this reply from the Catholic League.

http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=2053

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POPE BLAMES PRO-PEDOPHILIA CROWD
December 21, 2010

In his Christmas address yesterday, Pope Benedict XVI chastised priests who have molested minors, saying it had reached an "unimaginable dimension." He also tried to put the problem in a broader context, and for this he has been condemned. The pope said, "In the 1970s, pedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with man and even with children. It was maintained—even within the realm of Catholic theology—that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself."

Among those condemning the pope is Sinead O'Connor. "Exactly who held the theory that pedophilia was fully in conformity with man and with children? Please give us their names."

Catholic League president Bill Donohue answered O'Connor today:

You want names? Here they are: Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, Louis Althusser, Jean-Paul Satre, Simone de Beauvoir, André Glucksmann, Roland Barthes. All of these French intellectuals—and there are many more—signed a petition in 1977 demanding that all the laws on sex between adults and minors be stricken. Years earlier, in the U.S., Alfred Kinsey justified pedophilia, claiming that "the current hysteria over sex offenders" was detrimental to child development. So did his colleague, Wardell Pomeroy. Moreover, many other writers and activists have expressed a tolerance for pederasty that is extremely dangerous. They include Larry Kramer, Camille Paglia, Allen Ginsberg and John Money. And, of course, NAMBLA is expressly organized to further the cause of man-boy sex. So commonplace is this perversion that some scholars use the term "BLs" to refer to "Boy Lovers."

The Holy Father was not wrong about some Catholic theological circles getting caught up in this insanity. In the 1970s—the pope was right about the decade—under the auspices of the Catholic Theological Society, Anthony Kosnick's book Human Sexuality was published. Adopted by some seminaries at the time, it sought increased tolerance for every conceivable sexual deviancy. In other words, the pope got it right.
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faith3faith
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 05:18:PM »

I'm having a hard time reading your bias, f3f,

What bias ? I haven't even commented on this news article.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 05:31:PM »

I'm having a hard time reading your bias, f3f,

What bias ? I haven't even commented on this news article.

Yup.  That's what makes it hard to read.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 05:44:PM »

I have a feeling that quote was taken out of context. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 05:47:PM »

That pedophilia is becoming more normal can be shown by the passing of the Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 (H.R. 1913).  If you beat up on a known-child molester, you'll receive additional jail time.  Rolling eyes
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"It preaches that not only in civil affairs, which is not Our concern here, but also in religion, God has given every individual a wide freedom to embrace and adopt without danger to his salvation whatever sect or opinion appeals to him on the basis of his private judgment.  The apostle Paul warns us against the impiety of these madmen" (Pope Leo XII, Ubi Primum, n. 12).

"Likewise, peace is rooted in respect for religious freedom, which is a fundamental and primordial aspect of the freedom of conscience of individuals and of the freedom of peoples.  It is important that everywhere in the world every person can belong to the religion of his choice and practise it freely without fear" (Pope Benedict XVI, Address to Five New Ambassadors, 18 May 2006).
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 05:49:PM »

Just get rid of the priests and others in the church who do these things including teaching heresy and stop theorizing what society accepts or not. It won't be long before it will be acceptable the way immorality is flooding the earth.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2010, 09:23:PM »

Friends and neighbors,

Here is the reaction from just ONE forum talking about the misquote from the Holy Father about this current scandal:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1296245/pg1

There are currently TWELVE pages of arguments, counter-arguments, insults and worse in reaction to this scandal. Read if you wish to, for -- to be charitable -- the nonsense isn't pretty.

Thank you all in advance for your patience.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2010, 09:43:PM »

That pedophilia is becoming more normal can be shown by the passing of the Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 (H.R. 1913).  If you beat up on a known-child molester, you'll receive additional jail time.  Rolling eyes

WHAT???

Is that law now, or does the Senate have to pass it?
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"Let us never give in to pessimism, to that bitterness that the devil offers us every day. Do not give in to pessimism and discouragement. We have the firm certainty that the Holy Spirit gives the Church with His mighty breath, the courage to persevere and also to seek new methods of evangelization, to bring the Gospel to the ends of the earth."

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Excerpts from First Address to College of Cardinals
Given in the Clementine Hall, the Vatican
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