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Author Topic: Theology of Clothing (not a modesty debate)  (Read 4273 times)
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2011, 01:17:AM »

Hey...it can be tricky to find pictures of modest and trendy clothing. Beggars can't be choosers.  You are welcome to do better!  Smile

This thread turned into a henhouse fast. Yawn.

Any image of myself is an example of modest and classy attire for men. Probably. Usually. As for the wimmins..... *shrug* The posted images aren't to my liking, but, whatever. Modest and trendy are both largely subjective.  Especially the trendy part. If you like Victorian, neo-Vic or steampunk, I recommend perusing my thread on Dickens on the Strand for some good ideas.


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BTW, I am currently looking for a really nice dress for a wedding & not having much luck.  For that, I would like something really elegant.


I'm rather partial to this green one. I'd post it as an image if it weren't so huge.

I wish women moved away from white as their wedding dresses.
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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2011, 01:31:AM »

Hey...it can be tricky to find pictures of modest and trendy clothing. Beggars can't be choosers.  You are welcome to do better!  Smile

This thread turned into a henhouse fast. Yawn.

Any image of myself is an example of modest and classy attire for men. Probably. Usually. As for the wimmins..... *shrug* The posted images aren't to my liking, but, whatever. Modest and trendy are both largely subjective.  Especially the trendy part. If you like Victorian, neo-Vic or steampunk, I recommend perusing my thread on Dickens on the Strand for some good ideas.


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BTW, I am currently looking for a really nice dress for a wedding & not having much luck.  For that, I would like something really elegant.


I'm rather partial to this green one. I'd post it as an image if it weren't so huge.

YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN IF YOU DONT PARTICIPATE.  Henhouse. Hmph. 

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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2011, 01:33:AM »

YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN IF YOU DONT PARTICIPATE.  Hen house. Hmph. 

Well, I just got online after a couple days. I was just sayin'. Not a lot of menfolk about.
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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2011, 01:38:AM »

St Thomas said women should dress to please men.

Since clearly I and others seem to have it wrong then do tell... how might ya'll be pleased?     Huh? 

Something like this perhaps?

http://www.japanguidebook.com/files/u2/black-lolita-photo-harajuku-tokyo.jpg

http://mocoloco.com/art/upload/2009/02/books_gothic_lolita.jpg

Or something a bit more mature like this:
http://library.uncg.edu/dp/wv/biggie/6/WV0413.6.014.jpg

Or how bout this.
http://www.moonmaiden-gothic-clothing.co.uk/moonmaiden-index/gowns/mmg98/gothkitty_dress_2.jpg

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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2011, 02:01:AM »

St Thomas said women should dress to please men.

What a genius.

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Since clearly I and others seem to have it wrong then do tell... how might ya'll be pleased?     Huh? 

I confess, I'm not a fan of the Lolita look, what with full-sized women in dresses shaped for dolls. I do like that striped dress in the third image. Reminds me of Beetlejuice's suit. In a good way.

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« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2011, 04:18:AM »

St Thomas said women should dress to please men.

What a genius.

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Since clearly I and others seem to have it wrong then do tell... how might ya'll be pleased?     Huh? 

I confess, I'm not a fan of the Lolita look, what with full-sized women in dresses shaped for dolls. I do like that striped dress in the third image. Reminds me of Beetlejuice's suit. In a good way.



The striped dress is kind of awesome. 
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« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2011, 06:27:PM »

YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN IF YOU DONT PARTICIPATE.  Hen house. Hmph. 

Well, I just got online after a couple days. I was just sayin'. Not a lot of menfolk about.
Yeah I was internet-less for a couple days too, plus that was my first post in the "special" sub-forum...
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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2011, 06:36:PM »

Well first, I'd say (if the ladies will let me) that, as some people have already said, styles and tastes aren't an issue here, but rather, modesty by Church teaching.  I thought many of the outfits violet posted were funny looking and/or not classy at all, but modest, sure. 
Hey...it can be tricky to find pictures of modest and trendy clothing. Beggars can't be choosers.  You are welcome to do better!  Smile
Well, first I said classy, not trendy.  I find the two are not always similar...

Funny looking in my book may be trendy in other people's... but that wasn't the main point of my post.  Maybe I should have broken that into two posts so that everyone wouldn't ignore the meat-and-potatoes part.  Here, I'll quote the good part for you:
Our differences in taste aside, this was one post I could wholeheartedly agree with:
I try (sometimes fail) to dress slightly more "plain" for Sunday Mass than I do in regular life.  So I might wear semi-formal solid colored dress with plain black flats, while if I were going out grocery shopping I might wear vibrant colors, jewelry, funky shoes, etc. 

My reasons are because I see mass as the one place where you do not want to call attention to yourself because it might distract peoples focus.

I have found that my approach is opposite of most peoples. 
We have to remember Mass isn't about us.  Making a point of having "church clothes" is a good idea, IMO.  Not required by any stretch, but it helps us get in the proper frame of mind. I will sometimes dress slightly better for work on days I will be stopping at Mass on the way home.  Not my "Sunday clothes" but a little step up from my typical work attire. 

Being considerate of others by not drawing attention is a great idea too, and one that I would point to as an important part of being modest at Mass.  There are clothes that I make a point of not wearing to church also, on account of this same distraction factor that Violet mentioned.

All this said, I understand that every shepherd has the right to institute rules for how his flock should dress (however strict or loose) though that may not always be wise, IMO.  I do not believe I have never frequented a church that posted a dress code prominently, though not because I was avoiding any I just never saw one at any churches I've gone to repeatedly.  I could have been blindly missing them too...
Do tell, are we in agreement on this part at least?
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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2011, 06:42:PM »

Well first, I'd say (if the ladies will let me) that, as some people have already said, styles and tastes aren't an issue here, but rather, modesty by Church teaching.  I thought many of the outfits violet posted were funny looking and/or not classy at all, but modest, sure. 
Hey...it can be tricky to find pictures of modest and trendy clothing. Beggars can't be choosers.  You are welcome to do better!  Smile
Well, first I said classy, not trendy.  I find the two are not always similar...

Funny looking in my book may be trendy in other people's... but that wasn't the main point of my post.  Maybe I should have broken that into two posts so that everyone wouldn't ignore the meat-and-potatoes part.  Here, I'll quote the good part for you:
Our differences in taste aside, this was one post I could wholeheartedly agree with:
I try (sometimes fail) to dress slightly more "plain" for Sunday Mass than I do in regular life.  So I might wear semi-formal solid colored dress with plain black flats, while if I were going out grocery shopping I might wear vibrant colors, jewelry, funky shoes, etc. 

My reasons are because I see mass as the one place where you do not want to call attention to yourself because it might distract peoples focus.

I have found that my approach is opposite of most peoples. 
We have to remember Mass isn't about us.  Making a point of having "church clothes" is a good idea, IMO.  Not required by any stretch, but it helps us get in the proper frame of mind. I will sometimes dress slightly better for work on days I will be stopping at Mass on the way home.  Not my "Sunday clothes" but a little step up from my typical work attire. 

Being considerate of others by not drawing attention is a great idea too, and one that I would point to as an important part of being modest at Mass.  There are clothes that I make a point of not wearing to church also, on account of this same distraction factor that Violet mentioned.

All this said, I understand that every shepherd has the right to institute rules for how his flock should dress (however strict or loose) though that may not always be wise, IMO.  I do not believe I have never frequented a church that posted a dress code prominently, though not because I was avoiding any I just never saw one at any churches I've gone to repeatedly.  I could have been blindly missing them too...
Do tell, are we in agreement on this part at least?

Smile  Yes.

But I still want to see your links of nice cloths.
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« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2011, 06:45:PM »

St Thomas said women should dress to please men.

As I recall, he said that women should dress to please their husbands.  Do you have reference for him saying that women should dress to please men in general?  I see this as quite different.
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