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Author Topic: Refusing Communion to folk who attend Diocesan approved Tridentine Mass  (Read 3442 times)
Scipio_a
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2011, 07:24:AM »

I actually did not attend this wedding of my cousin and it was a painful decision. But I don't attend weddings where the priest doesn't have faculties. One of my other cousins attended the wedding. Some friends of mine who attend the Novus Ordo were also there. They actually got up and left the church when the priest said this. I can understand that he was worried about some of the congregation being in the state of sin, since many Catholics today are using artificial birth control. It would have been right if he just said that no one should approach the sacrament in the state of mortal sin.


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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2011, 11:57:AM »

So you didn't actually go, and the people who did go that told you about it didn't stay?

Hmmm.....
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2011, 06:56:PM »

Actually the priest said this before Mass even started. Some of my friends left. My cousin stayed.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2011, 07:49:PM »

Colleen,

I am sure that you are asking a sincere question and that the person who called you a troll was wrong as usual. 
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2011, 12:50:AM »

says the arch idiot.


A poster shows up.  Has 3 post that at each turn she claims even less knowledge about the event than she claimed or implied at first...demonstrates clear bias in op and second post and is not a troll...LOL


Let's have the Church listed so the claim can be verified.
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"Scipio Bull Biscuits, a flawlessly indoctrinated feminist male." - paraphrased from voxpop in one of his shining moments!!

"You've become a full adept to your kabbalistic philosemetism ...why not get it over with and fully convert to Judaism. At lest that would be respectable." - Popscile



"[Scipio's] high on mouth and low on brains"  - a brainiac

"...all I can guess is that maybe you're gay and haven't figured it out yet."   Huh?....LOL

"a malicious twerp" - A candylander

"I ain't no freakin' monument to justice!" -Moonstruck

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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2011, 02:37:AM »

They actually got up and left the church when the priest said this.

It's extremely tiresome when NO people do this at TLMs. If you're that easily offended, stay home instead of making a big fuss in a place where you're a guest. It seems like attention seeking to me. When I (very rarely) find myself at NO ceremony I wouldn't dream of getting up and leaving if something happened I didn't like. It's just rude and distracting...especially at a wedding.

Indeed. And NO ers are 'statement makers' but the only statement they're making is that they don't think things out ahead of time.

It's hilarious, they know there's going to be something, probably several things that don't jive with their disordered hippy group-hug way of seeing the world, yet they go and are shocked and hit the door with an "I never!"  LOL
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(5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) ≠ 722,500
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2011, 02:38:AM »

says the arch idiot.


A poster shows up.  Has 3 post that at each turn she claims even less knowledge about the event than she claimed or implied at first...demonstrates clear bias in op and second post and is not a troll...LOL


Let's have the Church listed so the claim can be verified.

I'm with Skippy on this one.

And what a hilarious way to phrase it: "I don't attend weddings where the priest doesn't have faculties"

As if:
a)She's presented with such specific opportunities (attending weddings presided over by "priests without faculties") so frequently she has a policy on it.
b)Apparently that would only be SSPX and SSPV weddings since no one else 1)has priests and 2)without 'faculties', why she couldn't have just said "SSPX or SSPV" instead of taking the long way around
c)So, she knows a ton of SSPX and SSPV goers, none of whom were married when she befriended them.
d)Presumably, she's go to a Protestant wedding because they don't have priests.
e)Not Masses mind you, but weddings.

Clown.
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"Tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society When an immoral society has blatantly and proudly violated all the commandments, it insists upon one last virtue, tolerance for its immorality. It will not tolerate condemnation of its perversions. It creates a whole new world in which only the intolerant critic of intolerable evil is evil." -H. Gibson

(5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) ≠ 722,500
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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2011, 03:51:AM »

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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2011, 09:31:AM »

Actually, I don't even know what a troll is? It sounds derogatory.
I asked this question because it matters to me. I have many relatives who belong to the Society of St. Pius X. We have a huge extended family. I think it is a serious matter if a priest says that those who attend the Extraordinary Form of the Mass every Sunday cannot recieve Communion at Pius X Masses. Did he mean that we are not Catholic? Did he mean that we are public sinners?
I have attended Society Masses in the past, since they are valid, but I don't feel comfortable attending their weddings since their priests do not have faculties. It really is a matter of canon law in both the 1917 version and the more modern one that a priest must have faculties for marriage and confession for these sacraments to be valid.
Protestant weddings are valid if both parties are free to marry and neither party is Catholic. As a Catholic, you can attend these weddings (but I don't think you can be in the wedding party, not sure about that).

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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2011, 10:49:AM »

What's funny about the above post is that the user exposes herself without me having to do the work I thought I was going to have to vis-a-vis prot weddings.


Coleen, if you are sincere, there's an easy fix.  You were invited to a wedding, which means you are friends or family of the folks in question.  You have no idea what happened because you wanted to make a statement.  Well, now you can make another one...go ask the priest himself what he said and what he meant!  The rest is all conjecture.


As for the faculties...well that's pretty well personal opinion at this point since Rome recognizes SSPX weddings and if reasons the SSPX said it had to do Mass without dioc approval exist, well then, those same reasons apply to confession and marriages and every other sacrament.
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"Scipio Bull Biscuits, a flawlessly indoctrinated feminist male." - paraphrased from voxpop in one of his shining moments!!

"You've become a full adept to your kabbalistic philosemetism ...why not get it over with and fully convert to Judaism. At lest that would be respectable." - Popscile



"[Scipio's] high on mouth and low on brains"  - a brainiac

"...all I can guess is that maybe you're gay and haven't figured it out yet."   Huh?....LOL

"a malicious twerp" - A candylander

"I ain't no freakin' monument to justice!" -Moonstruck

"Check out the big brain on Brad" - Jules
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