Should the U.S. End Aid to Israel? Funding Our Decline

[Underdog]

There is an added benefit.  Think about all the money that goes to horrible socialist/feminist/homosexual/atheistic/abortionist/anti-white causes that comes from Hollywood Jews, Media Jews, Real Estate Jews, and Banker Jews.  If you cut off aid to Israel, it is not like the Jews will just give up and close down the country.  No, the zionists will come knocking on the doors of these billionaires and in the process siphon off billions out of the current left wing coffers.  It would defund many anti-Catholic causes overnight.

Wow...now we just gotta come up with some way to get Catholics to stop giving money to those causes.

[Underdog]

DK do you actually believe that the Israeli's defeated the Arabs "3 times" without American aid or revenue?

I think this is being a little naive.

Of course the Arabs had help as well, there's no denying that, without European technology, money, and sophisticated weaponry Israel and the Arabs would be killing each other on horseback with bows and arrows.

Anyway, you can be rest assured Rand Paul is a marked man making statements like this.

Just like his father was.

Alaric...most Israelis ARE European...or American.  MOST.  They are using Western technology and strategies...because they ARE Western.  In fact, they're really good at innovation...constantly coming up with new technology and weaponry...because they are the new Sparta.

[Vetus Ordo]

because they are the new Sparta.

I think that such an enthusiasm or admiration over Israel is a bit over the top.

[Underdog]

I don't think so...they are surrounded on all sides by their enemies...and out of necessity they have become a warrior nation...a Western warrior nation...like Sparta.


Even if they were actively our enemy...you'd have to admire them.

[Vetus Ordo]

I don't think so...they are surrounded on all sides by their enemies...and out of necessity they have become a warrior nation...a Western warrior nation...like Sparta.

I understand that but, still, I believe the analogy is exaggerated. Unlike Sparta, that had specific cultural traits that turned them into a warrior city-state, I don't see nothing intrinsically Jewish that turns Isreal into a military powerhouse, and that is if we are to consider them a "military powerhouse" to begin with. Furthermore, it's not like they aren't to blame on the whole Middle Eastern conflict. This notion ("surrounded on all sides by their enemies") perpetuates the status of victimhood on the part of Israel, a concept very dear to Jews.

Even if they were actively our enemy...you'd have to admire them.

Perhaps. I do see Israel as spiritual enemy of Western civilization, along with its Muslim neighbours.

[Underdog]

I don't think so...they are surrounded on all sides by their enemies...and out of necessity they have become a warrior nation...a Western warrior nation...like Sparta.

I understand that but, still, I believe the analogy is exaggerated. Unlike Sparta, that had specific cultural traits that turned them into a warrior city-state, I don't see nothing intrinsically Jewish that turns Isreal into a military powerhouse, and that is if we are to consider them a "military powerhouse" to begin with. Furthermore, it's not like they aren't to blame on the whole Middle Eastern conflict. This notion ("surrounded on all sides by their enemies") perpetuates the status of victimhood on the part of Israel, a concept very dear to Jews.

Even if they were actively our enemy...you'd have to admire them.

Perhaps. I do see Israel as spiritual enemy of Western civilization, along with its Muslim neighbours.

Vetus...Israel...the Jews...are Western.  They are part of the West...and part of Western civilization.  Talmudic Judaism is a false religion...but so is paganism.  One GOOD trait that the Israelis share with us...due to common heritage...being Western...is phenomenal RESTRAINT.  They have the ability to make war...and successfully...against their Moham enemies...and yet they tolerate a great deal.  Just like us.

And you are wrong about them being to blame...they are not.  The Mohams claim to be descended from Abraham thru Ishmael...a man whose descendents were to be against all other nations.  They choose to make war on all non-Moham nations...us included.  The reason they make war on Israel...is due to envy.

[Hawaii Five-0]

I don't think so...they are surrounded on all sides by their enemies...and out of necessity they have become a warrior nation...a Western warrior nation...like Sparta.
Even if they were actively our enemy...you'd have to admire them.

Says who... Someone like Pastor Hagee, perhaps?   

[Underdog]

Or any Catholic with brains.

[Hawaii Five-0]

For some strange reason this image just popped into my head... 

[devotedknuckles]

Admiration foe sure. The r surounded that can't be de ied. Hey have won multiple wars against 3 states at the same time. What's not to admire about that? You dnt have r be a Jew oe zionist to look at military history and see what thebisrealia have accomplished. I'd be saying the same thing ifthe palistinians or Arabs overrun them. I also have admirTion the Karen, and others who have been fighting for so long. Now millions of Jews have been born and only have known life in their Country. You can go try to convince the. To just give up and hand it over
I doubt you will get very fsr. I've trained years in krav and I have noon by respect for touch Zionistss that trains SMS and I trained with. Give ip is not in their vocabulary and that needs to be admired
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