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MichaelNZ
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« on: March 23, 2011, 08:21:PM »

I know we're only bound to fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, but I'm following the more traditional fasting rules before they were changed.

Since the Annunciation is a first class feast, would traditional laws require fasting (and abstinence, seeing as it's a Friday this year) on this day or not?
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2011, 08:43:PM »

My Seraphim Calendar has fast and abstinence.

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2011, 09:02:PM »

I know we're only bound to fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, but I'm following the more traditional fasting rules before they were changed.

Since the Annunciation is a first class feast, would traditional laws require fasting (and abstinence, seeing as it's a Friday this year) on this day or not?

If I recall correctly, in the early 20th century one would have had to fast on the Annunciation.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 01:19:AM »

One of our FSSP priests told us that abstinence was not required on the Annunciation, but that could be just because he's coming over for breakfast that morning.  My wife makes an unbelievable breakfast casserole.   ;)
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 01:35:AM »

From what I understand, only a Holy Day of Obligation could  release one from the Lenten Fast back in the day. Ultimately, it's up to you.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 01:54:AM »

My prayer book from 1964 says that if a Holyday of Obligation or St. Patrick's Day falls during Lent, there is no fast. There are only two Holydays of Obligation in New Zealand (Christmas Day and the Assumption) and neither of them fall during Lent. So I guess I'll be fasting and abstaining tomorrow.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 06:06:AM »

Under the current law a Solemnity, like the Annunciation, exempts from Friday abstinence, even on Lenten Fridays. It doesn't matter if it's a day of obligation or not, just if it is a Solemnity.

Feasts of the equivalent rank under the 1917 Code exempted from Friday abstinence, except for Lenten Fridays.

In regards to St. Patrick's day, I think in certain places there was an indult given by Pius XII exempting one from Lenten fast and abstinence.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 07:30:AM »

Under the current law a Solemnity, like the Annunciation, exempts from Friday abstinence, even on Lenten Fridays. It doesn't matter if it's a day of obligation or not, just if it is a Solemnity.

Feasts of the equivalent rank under the 1917 Code exempted from Friday abstinence, except for Lenten Fridays.

My 1964 prayer book specifically says that if St. Patrick's Day falls on a fast day then there is no abstinence. That must have been the law in New Zealand before the modern fasting rules were introduced.

What about fasting under the 1917 Code? Do feasts of the equivalent rank (Double of the 1st Class) exempt from the Lenten fast? I don't have a problem with eating fish and chips for dinner tomorrow but I'd like to know if the old rules oblige me to fast or not on this day (which would also mean I can have the things I'm giving up for Lent)? It'd be good if I didn't have to fast as then I could have a proper lunch.

By the way, are chicken or beef flavoured noodles allowed on days of abstinence? I know they don't have any flesh meat in them, but are flavourings forbidden or not?


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In regards to St. Patrick's day, I think in certain places there was an indult given by Pius XII exempting one from Lenten fast and abstinence.

My 1964 prayer book specifically says that if St. Patrick's Day falls on a fast day then there is no fast. That must have been the law in New Zealand before the modern fasting rules were introduced. I didn't fast this year on St. Patrick's Day.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 09:43:AM »

Under current law, there is no required abstinence this year for the Annunciation. If a solemnity falls on a day of fast or abstinence, the solementity takes precence.

This was what the 1917 code said:

1252.4.  On Sundays or feasts of precept, the law of abstinence or of abstinence and fast or a fast only ceases, except during Lent, nor is the vigil anticipated; likewise it ceases on Holy Saturday afternoon.




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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 01:33:PM »

Under current law, there is no required abstinence this year for the Annunciation.

No surprise there.
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