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« Reply #170 on: March 25, 2011, 06:10:PM » |
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There you go. You do understand the core of the matter. It's really about our Holy Lord and His Holy House, not about us.
Okay, as I admitted above, I didn't bother reading this whole thread (having, you know, a BFing infant wriggling on me and all), but this seems wrong to me. Nursing isn't unholy. It's holy. Why is that inconsistent with the holiness of God's house? If that's been addressed, and somebody could tell me which page to find that on I'd love that. Elizabee makes the best mini pizzas in the world. I wholeheartedly occur with her posts on the subject. Quis posted some great Maria Lactans artwork on page 3 that should have put to rest all the skittishness about breastfeeding and holiness. |
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« Reply #171 on: March 25, 2011, 06:20:PM » |
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There you go. You do understand the core of the matter. It's really about our Holy Lord and His Holy House, not about us.
Okay, as I admitted above, I didn't bother reading this whole thread (having, you know, a BFing infant wriggling on me and all), but this seems wrong to me. Nursing isn't unholy. It's holy. Why is that inconsistent with the holiness of God's house? If that's been addressed, and somebody could tell me which page to find that on I'd love that. Nursing is not "holy," let's not misuse words. Nursing is a natural act a mother does for her child, something that even pagans do. The issue here is the appropriateness of such natural acts within church and during Mass. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #172 on: March 25, 2011, 06:23:PM » |
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But, let's go a step farther. Say a church has a Mother's Chapel (fancy name for "Cry Room" that we used at my parish growing up). Is it OK for mothers to nurse in there? Why or why not?
I would say "yes" as long as: 1) The "Mother's chapel" is really a separate room from the nave (and the altar) where the liturgy is being celebrated; 2) The chapel has no Blessed Sacrament exposed in it. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #173 on: March 25, 2011, 06:27:PM » |
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But, let's go a step farther. Say a church has a Mother's Chapel (fancy name for "Cry Room" that we used at my parish growing up). Is it OK for mothers to nurse in there? Why or why not?
I would say "yes" as long as: 1) The "Mother's chapel" is really a separate room from the nave (and the altar) where the liturgy is being celebrated; 2) The chapel has no Blessed Sacrament exposed in it. Yeah...cause you know God isnt everywhere, so he doesnt see breasts  |
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« Reply #174 on: March 25, 2011, 06:30:PM » |
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But, let's go a step farther. Say a church has a Mother's Chapel (fancy name for "Cry Room" that we used at my parish growing up). Is it OK for mothers to nurse in there? Why or why not?
I would say "yes" as long as: 1) The "Mother's chapel" is really a separate room from the nave (and the altar) where the liturgy is being celebrated; 2) The chapel has no Blessed Sacrament exposed in it. In the parish I grew up in, it was to the side of the altar and screened with sliding glass doors like how the nuns on EWTN hear Mass. Father would open the doors to distribute Communion; the audio was piped in. What about that? |
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« Reply #175 on: March 25, 2011, 06:36:PM » |
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But, let's go a step farther. Say a church has a Mother's Chapel (fancy name for "Cry Room" that we used at my parish growing up). Is it OK for mothers to nurse in there? Why or why not?
I would say "yes" as long as: 1) The "Mother's chapel" is really a separate room from the nave (and the altar) where the liturgy is being celebrated; 2) The chapel has no Blessed Sacrament exposed in it. In the parish I grew up in, it was to the side of the altar and screened with sliding glass doors like how the nuns on EWTN hear Mass. Father would open the doors to distribute Communion; the audio was piped in. What about that? I'd go for it if the chairs were comfy gliders or nice big armchairs...that way I could nurse in true comfort. Of course, I'd want one all to myself...no sense in letting Canadian Catholic or Satori, etc. catch a glimpse of my uncovered boob...wouldn't be decent. |
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« Reply #176 on: March 25, 2011, 06:39:PM » |
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I'd go for it if the chairs were comfy gliders or nice big armchairs...that way I could nurse in true comfort. Of course, I'd want one all to myself...no sense in letting Canadian Catholic or Satori, etc. catch a glimpse of my uncovered boob...wouldn't be decent.
No, they were hard wooden pews. But the walls were painted with murals of the BVM, Noah's Ark, etc. Not in cartoony format, but in classical style. |
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« Reply #177 on: March 25, 2011, 06:40:PM » |
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Yeah...cause you know God isnt everywhere, so he doesnt see breasts God is sacramentally present in the Blessed Sacrament. He is physically there. Our behaviour before Him should be the most docile, modest, humble and respectful possible. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #178 on: March 25, 2011, 06:41:PM » |
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In the parish I grew up in, it was to the side of the altar and screened with sliding glass doors like how the nuns on EWTN hear Mass. Father would open the doors to distribute Communion; the audio was piped in.
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #179 on: March 25, 2011, 06:43:PM » |
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In the parish I grew up in, it was to the side of the altar and screened with sliding glass doors like how the nuns on EWTN hear Mass. Father would open the doors to distribute Communion; the audio was piped in.
What about that?
It seems like a nice arrangement. I think it should be standard in parishes, personally, but we can't hack up existing cathedrals (except the Taj Mahony which should be razed). |
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