St. Drogo
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« on: March 24, 2011, 11:37:PM » |
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I have never seen this in any traditionalist chapel I've ever been to and I'm not at all sure why. Certainly I don't know where the 1983 law abrogates this custom, and it seems like the same logic as that that is used to justify women veiling should apply.
Edit: I was talking to a second cousin about the traditional mass and he mentioned that his brother used to attend a mass somewhere in the Midwest where this custom still prevailed.
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 11:52:PM » |
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Did this apply to families? Or simply single people?
This, I think, would be interesting for the older generation to answer. If it was actually "enforced" or followed.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 11:54:PM » |
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According to my cousin, when he was growing up it applied to everyone but infants. This was in South Dakota
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 12:05:AM » |
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I have heard of this custom in Middle-Eastern Churches; however, I thought that it died out in the West, within the last four centuries or so.  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 01:31:AM » |
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I was born in 1951, over a decade before even the 1962 missal.
In parochial school when we attended a daily Mass in the parish church the boys and girls sat on different sides (I'm thinking the boys sat on the Epistle side?, but I can't really remember). When we had Mass in the school cafeteria (the parish church was 10 blocks away, until a new one was built in 1963), there was no center aisle, so the girls sat in the front rows and the boys behind them.
Howeve, in regular Mass attendance, families always sat together, and single people sat where ever, I presume. This was in the diocesies
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 04:50:AM » |
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I'm sure HK would be down with it!  |
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 01:14:PM » |
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This separation in the church is still presumed in the 1962 missal, or least the rubricians, when describing the reception of sacramentals such as candles (Candlemas), ashes (Ash Wednesday), palms (Palm Sunday), and venerating the cross (on Good Friday), as well as the sacrament of Communion. Of course, this is still done for Confirmations.
However, this is rarely seen today in the States, though I have read that it was still be promoted here as late as the 1920's.
When I was in El Paso, the faithful would actually venerate the cross in hierarchical order; it was nice to see this. About 12 years ago In the SSPX's chapel in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, the men and young men (any boy who had made his First Communion) sat on the Epistle side, while the women and children sat on the Gospel side. Again, it was nice to see the old-fashioned custom still be practiced.
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 01:35:PM » |
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I'm sure HK would be down with it! Interesting idea, but it would undoubtedly highlight the fact that women rule the Church, because their sidewould always be bigger. For Mass, anyway. For the Divine Hours, having a women's section would be pointless, LOL. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 04:45:PM » |
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Sometimes you see this in Eastern Rite churches, but generally it's more convenient for families to stay together. The old people in my parish used to refer to the "women's side" and the "men's side" of the church. Sometime, in old churches with pews, only the "men's side" has hat clips on the pews because, of course, the women kept their hats on.
If I'm not mistaken, even the 1917 Code merely recommended the practice of separating the sexes in church, and did not require it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 04:56:PM » |
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I attended Mass in the 50's and 60's (long before my conversion) in Kansas and I never saw segregation by sex in a Catholic Church.
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