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Author Topic: $350 and it's all yours...Baronius Breviarium Romanum  (Read 32151 times)
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« Reply #390 on: April 26, 2012, 11:15:PM »

Please, please tell me people aren't not liking this breviary....

It's either gut busting hilarious or suicidally depressing. 
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« Reply #391 on: April 26, 2012, 11:21:PM »

Mine arrived yesterday!  It is so much more difficult than the BrevMeum app and I don't think I've said one Hour yet that matched up with BrevMeum, but I'll get it with time! 

(I'm confused about what to take from the Common - apparently the Chapter, Responsor, and Verse today, which I was taking from the Proper of the Season, I think, instead of the Common... but, this is not the fault of the books - they are beautiful).

For most feasts of Saints, everything is from the Common except the Psalms and Antiphons, unless something is given proper. The only things from the Season (in the 1962 Rubrics) is the Lessons and Responds of the I Nocturn and the Brief Lesson at Prime. For I class Feasts, the Psalms and Antiphons are from the Common at all the Hours; for II class Feasts, the Psalms and Antiphons are from the Common at Matins, Lauds, and Vespers only.
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« Reply #392 on: April 26, 2012, 11:35:PM »

Please, please tell me people aren't not liking this breviary....

It's either gut busting hilarious or suicidally depressing. 

My order arrived today. I'm very impressed with everything and it is totally worth the money on a material and spiritual level.
They are very well made and very beautiful.

My quick review (with pics), for what it is worth, is here- http://www.churchlatin.com/books.aspx?categoryid=20
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« Reply #393 on: April 27, 2012, 03:36:AM »

It is a very nice set. I do like the Psalter better.

But, I did find one glaring mistake in Psalm 77 vi. at today's Matins.

Verse 63: Fire consumed their young men: * and their maidens were not lamented.

I copied and pasted the above from Divinum Officium. But, in the Baronius edition that verse reads, "Fire consumed their young men, * and their maidens died unlamented".

I also find it redundant that Introductory material is included in all 3 volumes.

And also redundant is the inclusion of Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Septuagesima, and Lent Season Rubrics in a Volume that begins on Passion Sunday in the Ordinary. I am assuming all Seasons are in all Ordinaries in all 3 Volumes. No need for that, as the books are already pretty hefty.

And the ribbons are too short and too close together and look like they may frey. I am currently trying to tame the ribbons in the 2 other volumes by finding the page closest to the ribbon and and wedging them against the spine, straight down. To straighten them out a bit.

I'm sure I will find more to complain about. But, overall they did a great job. I'm kind of picky obviously, and it is 3:30 in the morning.

I really like the explanations of the Psalms and the breaking them up into parts to explain the meaning. That's wonderful and have not really had a chance to even explore that wealth of information.

So I guess I would give it an A- so far.

I think I better hit the sack.

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« Reply #394 on: April 27, 2012, 05:11:AM »

This stuff works great for ribbons that tend to fray.

http://www.amazon.com/Prym-Dritz-674-Fray-Check-/dp/B0019KBWA2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335521433&sr=8-1
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« Reply #395 on: April 27, 2012, 07:18:AM »


So does clear nail polish when used sparingly.
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« Reply #396 on: April 27, 2012, 07:29:AM »

Mine arrived yesterday!  It is so much more difficult than the BrevMeum app and I don't think I've said one Hour yet that matched up with BrevMeum, but I'll get it with time! 

(I'm confused about what to take from the Common - apparently the Chapter, Responsor, and Verse today, which I was taking from the Proper of the Season, I think, instead of the Common... but, this is not the fault of the books - they are beautiful).

For most feasts of Saints, everything is from the Common except the Psalms and Antiphons, unless something is given proper. The only things from the Season (in the 1962 Rubrics) is the Lessons and Responds of the I Nocturn and the Brief Lesson at Prime. For I class Feasts, the Psalms and Antiphons are from the Common at all the Hours; for II class Feasts, the Psalms and Antiphons are from the Common at Matins, Lauds, and Vespers only.

Very concise and very helpful!  Thank you so much! 

I'm starting to get the hang of it now with the series of III Class Feasts we've had the past few days.
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« Reply #397 on: April 27, 2012, 07:32:AM »

It is a very nice set. I do like the Psalter better.

But, I did find one glaring mistake in Psalm 77 vi. at today's Matins.

Verse 63: Fire consumed their young men: * and their maidens were not lamented.

I copied and pasted the above from Divinum Officium. But, in the Baronius edition that verse reads, "Fire consumed their young men, * and their maidens died unlamented".

I also find it redundant that Introductory material is included in all 3 volumes.

And also redundant is the inclusion of Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Septuagesima, and Lent Season Rubrics in a Volume that begins on Passion Sunday in the Ordinary. I am assuming all Seasons are in all Ordinaries in all 3 Volumes. No need for that, as the books are already pretty hefty.

And the ribbons are too short and too close together and look like they may frey. I am currently trying to tame the ribbons in the 2 other volumes by finding the page closest to the ribbon and and wedging them against the spine, straight down. To straighten them out a bit.

I'm sure I will find more to complain about. But, overall they did a great job. I'm kind of picky obviously, and it is 3:30 in the morning.

I really like the explanations of the Psalms and the breaking them up into parts to explain the meaning. That's wonderful and have not really had a chance to even explore that wealth of information.

So I guess I would give it an A- so far.

I think I better hit the sack.



The explanations of the Psalms and of the different hours/days make this set worth the money, in my opinion (and that outweighs any problems with the set too).  The explanations are fantastic and have really helped me over the last couple days shifting from BrevMeum to the books.
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« Reply #398 on: April 27, 2012, 08:02:AM »

I love it!  The explanations with each hour and with the psalms is beautiful (the parts ive read so far)

As to including all seasons, I think this is only for rubrics, as they were considered a document in toto with including.

But, unless I'm mistaken , they did not do things like include common of saints in paschal tide in the volumes outside of paschal tide, etc.
 
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« Reply #399 on: April 27, 2012, 08:46:AM »

I love it!  The explanations with each hour and with the psalms is beautiful (the parts ive read so far)

As to including all seasons, I think this is only for rubrics, as they were considered a document in toto with including.

But, unless I'm mistaken , they did not do things like include common of saints in paschal tide in the volumes outside of paschal tide, etc.
 

To my knowledge, no breviary ever included all the seasonal commons in each volume, only the relevant volume.  Obviously a totum would, but those are fairly rare.
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