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« Reply #430 on: April 30, 2012, 11:41:PM » |
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QFT. I think we need a new thread since the project has been complete.
Agreed.
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« Reply #431 on: May 01, 2012, 02:48:AM » |
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Totally disagree. Baronius took the better part of a decade of (their own!) missed deadlines to bring it to market. They also publicized all they were doing to scrub errors from drafts, their indirect point (pitch?) being that the wait would be worth it. If you followed the pre-release discussions, you'd know just how high market expectations had been ratcheted.
After all this, to still have typos scattered throughout the final product is totally inexcusable. Forgivable, certainly, but not excusable.
Like I said, this whole Breviary fiasco has been amateur hour from A to X.*
(*pun intended)
Totally agree! After months, if not years, of 'proof reading', there are still errors? If there was competition, Baronius would have been out of business years ago.
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« Reply #432 on: May 01, 2012, 07:59:AM » |
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The typos are no big deal.
The thinking of how someone is going to use the volumes is a little suspect.
For instance. Today's Feast. It would have been wise to produce a Card with Sunday Psalms and the different 5th Psalms that may be the last for Feasts.
To flip 1500 pages to find the Anitphon and then pray the Psalm, and back to the Antiphon on a weak and short ribbon is not good.
Same goes for Matins, but at least the Psalms were taken from the Common.
I think they could have done away with Introdutory material and rubrics in all volumes and produced a slimmer volume for that information. No need for Seasonal Information in the Psalter or in the Ordinary that will not be covered in the Volume you are currrently using. Proper Order should be Ordinary, Psalter, Proper of Time, Proper of Saints, Common of Saints, then additional Litanies, Prayers, etc.
A simple GL should be marked at the bottom of page if a Psalm ends there or a cont. indicator if you need to finish Psalm on the following page. But, I am not going to get excited over a few typos. That is petty.
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« Reply #433 on: May 01, 2012, 09:01:AM » |
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« Reply #434 on: May 01, 2012, 03:34:PM » |
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Thanks for that link. I'll make some of these for my other books!
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« Reply #435 on: May 01, 2012, 03:59:PM » |
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Started a new thread about the Baronius edition and any errors or impressions (good or bad) as previously suggested here: http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3450484.0.html
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« Reply #436 on: May 01, 2012, 06:39:PM » |
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Don't you think that is going a little too far? With all due respect, what is your problem? It would be perfectly justifiable to publicize a product that was riddled with errors. But any initial publication with over six thousand pages from any source is bound to have a mistake here and there. That is how things are in this life. But you seem to be on a mission to nitpick the Breviary to excess and loudly trumpet whatever imperfection you can find, for the sole purpose of embarrassing the company and potentially discouraging sales. Might I suggest keeping things in proper perspective and stop with the game of "gotcha"? What you are doing is hardly a Catholic way of supporting a Catholic operation.
Totally disagree. Baronius took the better part of a decade of (their own!) missed deadlines to bring it to market. They also publicized all they were doing to scrub errors from drafts, their indirect point (pitch?) being that the wait would be worth it. If you followed the pre-release discussions, you'd know just how high market expectations had been ratcheted. After all this, to still have typos scattered throughout the final product is totally inexcusable. Forgivable, certainly, but not excusable. Like I said, this whole Breviary fiasco has been amateur hour from A to X.* (*pun intended) Perhaps you missed my point. I was not objecting to annoyances about mistakes, per se, as long as they are not blown way out of proportion. In the case of the Breviary, now that it is physically in people's hands the amount of time it took and the expectations during the process are no longer relevant considerations. The only question is whether the mistakes are acceptable or not - "acceptable" being quantity and effect on usability. More directly to my response to Nightflier101BL is that as of this writing, that account is brand new with only 3 posts, all of which are self-congratulatory announcements of possible typos he found in the new Breviary. The obvious conclusion is that the account was created expressly for the purpose of attacking the new publication and damaging the reputation of the Breviary and, by extension, Baronius Press. I will not hazard a guess as to his motive for doing so, but my point was that his actions strike me as unfairly targeting it for some unknown agenda. That is not the same as one of us regulars posting a comment now and then. So I politely requested him to cease his campaign. If he does not, I will appeal to the moderator to have his account suspended.
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« Reply #437 on: May 01, 2012, 08:07:PM » |
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Don't you think that is going a little too far?
Yes, I do. And you may have missed my follow-up post where I apologized to Nightflier101BL for over-reacting. Additionally, I exchanged a couple of private messages with him, explaining why I responded as I did, and offered an additional apology. I believe we settled the matter and put it in the past.
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« Reply #438 on: May 01, 2012, 08:49:PM » |
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Ah, that's unfortunate. I prefer drama to apologies.
And I'm especially fond of nitpicking proof reading errors.
Sadly, it seems that I can't always get what I want. But if I try real hard sometimes, I get what I need.
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« Reply #439 on: May 01, 2012, 10:12:PM » |
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Thanks for that link. I'll make some of these for my other books! You're very welcome 
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