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I am preparing material for a book series where the main character is a traditional priest who solves crimes (he was a detective before he entered the seminary). However, I'm not sure if I should make him a priest who never embraced the spirit of Vatican II and remained traditional, or if I should make him a priest who said the New Mass etc but only recently returned to tradition. Either way, I need to have him moving to the town where the book is set. What do you guys think?
Also, prior to Vatican II, when priests went out, did they normally wear a biretta or a cappello romano?
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 06:51:AM » |
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Hats only. In the day priests wore Borsolinos or Dobbs Fedoras, here in Chicago, like other men.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 07:13:AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 07:20:AM » |
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Especially if you were snubbed by one. That was a riot WRC.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 07:49:AM » |
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I am preparing material for a book series where the main character is a traditional priest who solves crimes (he was a detective before he entered the seminary). However, I'm not sure if I should make him a priest who never embraced the spirit of Vatican II and remained traditional, or if I should make him a priest who said the New Mass etc but only recently returned to tradition. Either way, I need to have him moving to the town where the book is set. What do you guys think?
Also, prior to Vatican II, when priests went out, did they normally wear a biretta or a cappello romano?
I think the "recently returned to tradition" option would leave room for the character to develop. You don't want your hero to be a "cookie-cutter" version of a trad priest. Some interior struggle would help with that. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 08:27:AM » |
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I'd not address it at all. Just pretend like the issue doesn't exist and orthodoxy is the norm.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 08:51:AM » |
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Sounds interesting
the last thing u should do is actually write. (besides dialogue ideas ect)
anyway
do u have a story template and a story grid worked out?
What kind of orgaizational method r u using to keep info and all relavant dialogue and charactor development in an accessble manner for u to use as u deelop the story?
What u don't want to do is sit and begin to write without any grinor template worked out in advance. To begin writing without grid or template is a mark of an amature and u will waste years and a marrage trying to create your work without the adequate strategic means to do so. And even if your dialogue is brilliant if the story is all style and no substance the adiance and readers will know and the adience suffer greatly.
here is in a nutshell a story template is
charactor
action
goal
advesary
a story grid is
who's story is it?
What's the goal
what's the obstical
what's at sake
what does he learn
it's not as easy as it looks. tHe above are tools to aid u in developing the charactor and the story that either tells us about him and his life or deeds or a story he tells us
here is a simple story template for die hard (related to a story of a trad priest no doubt)
charactor
renegade broken hearted cop motivted to seek reconciliation with bitchy wife. (note. The name of the charactor is not what is being asked)
action
seeks reconciliation with wife. (note. This is not what happens to the charactor but what he does. Before any badguys need to be killed he needs to first be there to do it. In Die hard he is there not to kill weirdo German badguys but to spend time with his ex in the hope of getting back together. That's the crux here)
goal
is love. (note goals are either of three things. Love, life style or death) all goals in every story csn be boiled down to either of thee three
Advesary
his wife. Not freakish German badguys with a flare for murder. Die hard for all it's fun is actually a love story
the above is the method we used and use in script writing but it also is used in sll creative writing. The above I like using some prefer a more rigourus methodology others less. What's important here is to not let the dialogue write the story. U write it trhrogj the charactors u have already developed
I also recomend usin. Que csrds to keep the story organaized and if ur like me u would like to story board it t get a feel for the structure. Granted this isn't for the screen but u never know snd it onky aids in developing your story
it's the story that counts
anyway I'm on the road so csnt really remember other rid bits but the above I winged and should help
it has helped me
good luck and it looks intersting
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 01:34:PM » |
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I think the "recently returned to tradition" option would leave room for the character to develop. You don't want your hero to be a "cookie-cutter" version of a trad priest. Some interior struggle would help with that.
That was my gut reaction to the question too. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 02:55:PM » |
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Sounds like this could be a very interesting book!
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 06:51:PM » |
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I think the "recently returned to tradition" option would leave room for the character to develop. You don't want your hero to be a "cookie-cutter" version of a trad priest. Some interior struggle would help with that.
That was my gut reaction to the question too. Great minds think alike...  I thought that if MichaelNZ wanted to write a series, the "recently returned" option would allow for things to happen to the character as the novels progressed. Can I get in line for an autographed copy? |
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"But Christianity preaches an obviously unattractive idea, such as original sin; but when we wait for its results, they are pathos and brotherhood, and a thunder of laughter and pity; for only with original sin we can at once pity the beggar and distrust the king." -- G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936)
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