Someone1776
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 02:54:PM » |
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This will be my last post here since Piabee says I am derailing her thread. Okay here is the outline to every SINGLE romantic comedy that has ever existed and ever will exist: -Movie begins with a strong successful women who has it all, except the perfect man.
-She meets a nice guy. He seems alright, but there is something off. But, she decides to put up with him since "he's nice."
-She then meets Mr. Not-So-Nice. She HATES him. He is crude and does not treat her like a princess. In fact much of their first interaction will be him telling her how wrong she is about something. Also there is a 90% chance that Mr. Not-So-Nice owns a motorcycle. And she HATES motorcycles!
-She vows never to see Mr. Not-So-Nice ever again!
-But, when she sees Mr. Nice for the next time she can't stop thinking about Mr. Not-So-Nice. Usually this will result in a long scene where she complains about Mr. Not-So-Nice to Mr. Nice.
-Somehow she ends up entangled with Mr. Not-So-Nice again. He continues aggravating her by refusing to do things the way she likes!
-However....she begins to realize that Mr. Not-So-Nice might actually be right about a lot of things...and that she was wrong. His ways are in fact better!
-She also realizes he is actually a sensitive person that does something charitable like taking care of homeless kids or something.
-At a key moment in the movie she will surrender all her independence and hand it over to Mr. Not-So-Nice. Usually this is something like her having to ride on his motorcycle with him. He of course is driving and she has no power other than to hold him as strongly as she can. She is usually terrified at giving up her independence, but also laughing all the way. It's exciting to finally be dependent on someone else!
-She realizes she is in love with Mr. Not-So-Nice, kisses him, and dumps Mr. Nice.
-Everyone lives happily ever after...except Mr. Nice Romantic comedies are a woman's fantasy....and that fantasy appears to be that a woman wants to be transformed from a strong successful woman into a woman totally dependent on a man. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 03:04:PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2011, 03:36:PM » |
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I have been played the nice guy before. The article does overgeneralize but they it is on the right track. When you are a nice guy, you are actually trying too hard to be a nice and please the woman. You are actually removing your masculinity and coming across as asexual towards the one who you want to be sexual with. Rather than being turned on by you, you come across to the woman as a a brother, cousin of just a male friend that she can't get sexually interested in.
Having said that, it doesn't mean that the only guys attracted women are godless drunks who sleep around and beat women. Catholic guys who follow values can still be nice. You just can't be nice to the point of not being masculine or virile. Just because you a religious doesn't mean we have to be afraid to lightly flirt or comes across as a sexual. You have to lightly flirt or be lightly sexual or the woman will never have the sexual spark turned on. You will just be the nice male friend who doesn't seem very manly.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 03:40:PM » |
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I have been played the nice guy before. The article does overgeneralize but they it is on the right track. When you are a nice guy, you are actually trying too hard to be a nice and please the woman. You are actually removing your masculinity and coming across as asexual towards the one who you want to be sexual with. Rather than being turned on by you, you come across to the woman as a a brother, cousin of just a male friend that she can't get sexually interested in.
Having said that, it doesn't mean that the only guys attracted women are godless drunks who sleep around and beat women. Catholic guys who follow values can still be nice. You just can't be nice to the point of not being masculine or virile. Just because you a religious doesn't mean we have to be afraid to lightly flirt or comes across as a sexual. You have to lightly flirt or be lightly sexual or the woman will never have the sexual spark turned on. You will just be the nice male friend who doesn't seem very manly.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 03:41:PM » |
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I have been played the nice guy before. The article does overgeneralize but they it is on the right track. When you are a nice guy, you are actually trying too hard to be a nice and please the woman. You are actually removing your masculinity and coming across as asexual towards the one who you want to be sexual with. Rather than being turned on by you, you come across to the woman as a a brother, cousin of just a male friend that she can't get sexually interested in.
Having said that, it doesn't mean that the only guys attracted women are godless drunks who sleep around and beat women. Catholic guys who follow values can still be nice. You just can't be nice to the point of not being masculine or virile. Just because you a religious doesn't mean we have to be afraid to lightly flirt or comes across as a sexual. You have to lightly flirt or be lightly sexual or the woman will never have the sexual spark turned on. You will just be the nice male friend who doesn't seem very manly.
Indeed. Ditto. |
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 03:45:PM » |
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The point of the article is that guys who consider themselves to be nice are actually NOT that nice at all. The problem isn't with being nice. It's with thinking you're nice when you're not.
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 03:48:PM » |
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The point of the article is that guys who consider themselves to be nice are actually NOT that nice at all. The problem isn't with being nice. It's with thinking you're nice when you're not.
That too. But then we're just talking about losers, which is a given that they suck. |
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 03:49:PM » |
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People should think more before posting.
A context for writing certain things does not mean it should be written.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 04:51:PM » |
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The way I see it, a nice guy is a bland or inconsequential man who doesn’t impress us with any specific virtue or vice. It’s basically a dismissive term, and it’s suited for that role. ‘Nice’ is weaker and fuzzier than the words kind, noble, generous, or good; ‘guy’ is another weak and fuzzy word, sexless almost, with ‘man’ being a much stronger alternative. Kind men, for instance, are more successful than nice guys with women. But the problem with this whole debate is that so much of it revolves around semantics, interpretation, and self-image, and it’s just too close to us to allow for objectivity.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 05:07:PM » |
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I think some people seem very bland on the outside precisely because the other person doesn't know them well and the other way around. Not everyone is willing to actually show a real personality in front of strangers. Of course, that can work for good or bad, but it's the way it is quite often. Again, it depends on the type of person, too.
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