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Graham
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« Reply #100 on: July 07, 2011, 07:59:AM »
Quote from: CollegeCatholic
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If a man thinks of himself as nice, but he isn't attracting women, it's because A) he really is but doesn't realize it (men can be clueless), or B) he isn't acting like a man.

Or maybe he's just hideous.  Or boring.  Or quiet.  Or, like, 9000 other things.


What 9000?!?!?!?!
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Servire Deo
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« Reply #101 on: July 07, 2011, 10:11:PM »
Quote from: Wired- Alt Text: The Nice Guy’s Guide to Realizing You’re Not That Nice
There are any number of geek guys running around out there without the love and companionship that many people and all golden retrievers deserve.

For a minute there I thought it said Greek guys.  LOL


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After a man has had a few of experiences of women with unreasonable expectations and sees the connection to the way that modern women are socialized, he is likely to become discouraged.  It is not a simple matter of moving on to another woman because he has begun to doubt that a suitable woman even exists.  There is a general problem with women in this culture and saying that men just have to "man-up"  does not recognize this.

Men have the upper hand in modern dating because of a general lack of morality. The price of sex is low and men take advantage of it. Modern women may want the wrong things in some ways but that's because they're told not to expect marriage or commitment from a man so they focus on other things. Most men who go from one woman to another do so because A: they want to and B: they get away with it and are even encouraged by society to be womanizers.

Actually, women have the upper hand. Women control access to their body.

I look at it from an economic point of view: the price of sex will be high when women start closing their legs.

And don't argue that women aren't aware of this and other powers. They became aware of their power over men from the first time they manipulated dad into buying something at the toy store for them. And sometime later they became aware of controlling men (or boys, usually their peers) with "access".
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« Reply #102 on: July 07, 2011, 10:36:PM »
SD, I think you might possibly want to rethink the last sentences there: your main point talking about the power to withhold sex, I mean, and then saying they use "this power" to manipulate their fathers. I'm sure you didn't mean it to sound quite like that, but it's unfortunately phrased.
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« Reply #103 on: July 07, 2011, 11:38:PM »
Quote from: Servire Deo
Quote from: Wired- Alt Text: The Nice Guy’s Guide to Realizing You’re Not That Nice
There are any number of geek guys running around out there without the love and companionship that many people and all golden retrievers deserve.

For a minute there I thought it said Greek guys.  LOL


Quote from: Iolanthe
Quote from: JayneK
After a man has had a few of experiences of women with unreasonable expectations and sees the connection to the way that modern women are socialized, he is likely to become discouraged.  It is not a simple matter of moving on to another woman because he has begun to doubt that a suitable woman even exists.  There is a general problem with women in this culture and saying that men just have to "man-up"  does not recognize this.

Men have the upper hand in modern dating because of a general lack of morality. The price of sex is low and men take advantage of it. Modern women may want the wrong things in some ways but that's because they're told not to expect marriage or commitment from a man so they focus on other things. Most men who go from one woman to another do so because A: they want to and B: they get away with it and are even encouraged by society to be womanizers.

Actually, women have the upper hand. Women control access to their body.

I look at it from an economic point of view: the price of sex will be high when women start closing their legs.

And don't argue that women aren't aware of this power. They became aware of this power from the first time they manipulated dad.

 Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?
Please elaborate in detail. Be real careful.
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« Reply #104 on: July 08, 2011, 01:38:AM »
That came out wrong. You know what I mean.
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« Reply #105 on: July 08, 2011, 01:55:AM »
Quote from: Servire Deo
That came out wrong. You know what I mean.

Not really  Huh?
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« Reply #106 on: July 08, 2011, 10:58:AM »
I edited it.
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Iolanthe
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« Reply #107 on: July 08, 2011, 01:16:PM »
It's still asinine and totally wrong. Some women are manipulative, just like some men are controlling. It's not fair to assume based on that that those attributes belong to the entire gender.
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« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2011, 01:22:PM »
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It's still asinine and totally wrong. Some women are manipulative, just like some men are controlling. It's not fair to assume based on that that those attributes belong to the entire gender.

Agreed but would you like to address the issue of "access"?
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devotedknuckles
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« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2011, 03:16:PM »
You sound bitter at being soaped or turned down or laughed at when.U  Went to get laid
lol
tha how it reads anyway
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