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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2011, 03:21:AM »

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Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat
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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2011, 12:11:PM »

Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

On what grounds do you claim this?

Read Fr. James Wathen's book "The Great Sacrilege" and Patrick Omlor's book "Questioning the Validity of the New Mass".

I haven't read those books; but just so I can understand you're position better, do you believe that Novus Ordo priests have valid orders but no valid Eucharist? Or that they have neither?
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« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2011, 04:36:PM »

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Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat

A Church not built on St. Peter but on false Popes is not the Catholic Church.
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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2011, 06:25:PM »


Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat

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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2011, 06:43:PM »

Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

On what grounds do you claim this?

Read Fr. James Wathen's book "The Great Sacrilege" and Patrick Omlor's book "Questioning the Validity of the New Mass".

I haven't read those books; but just so I can understand you're position better, do you believe that Novus Ordo priests have valid orders but no valid Eucharist? Or that they have neither?


Dear Peter:  Novus Ordo priests are not catholic priests because they were invalidly ordained with the anglican rite for ordination established by Paul VI in 1968.  Their Mess is no Mass at all.  It is a parody of the true Mass of St.Pius V.  Therefore those "priests" have no valid orders and their "Mass" has no valid Eucharist.  It is too bad you do not read Spanish because I have 12 books explaining, detailing and proving all of this with hundred of documents, photographs and  testimonials, as per what follows.



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A.-  $300 Dólares para cubrir el envío de los libros CARTEO CON MONTINI, APOSTATOS, LA IGLESIA DE TODOS y LAS CUATRO RATAS DEL VATICANO.
B.-  $600 Dólares para cubrir el envío de los libros anteriores, más una copia fotostática del Volumen titulado LAS BESTIAS DEL VATICANO que a su vez comprende los libros titulados ESPERANDO A LA RATA, LA QUINTA RATA DEL VATICANO, LA SEXTA RATA DEL VATICANO y LOS BURROS DEL VATICANO. 
C.- $700 Dólares para cubrir el envío de los libros anteriores, más una copia fotostática del libro LAS CUCARACHAS DEL VATICANO y material adicional que incluye -y en el que sobresale- una Fotografía a colores del R.P. Feliciano Chávez Nolasco quien, cuando vino a Tijuana por primera vez en 1993, celebró la Santa Misa en la casa de un servidor.  Durante la Misa, al Agnus Dei, vuelto hacia nosotros, mi esposa y yo fuimos testigos oculares de una Luz Divina que salió de la Hostia Consagrada.  La descripción de esa Luz lo más cercano a la realidad y en pequeño, es como cuando se ve el Sol al irse ocultando en el horizonte al crepúsculo.  Providencialmente yo traía una cámara fotográfica Minolta y tomé las fotografías del MILAGRO EUCARISTICO.  No existe en la historia del mundo ni jamás volverá a existir una fotografía de Nuestro Señor saliendo EN FORMA DE LUZ DIVINA de la Hostia válidamente consagrada.
D.- $900 Dólares para cubrir el envío de todo lo anterior, más copia fotostática de los siguientes libros: LA IGLESIA APÓSTATA, SEDE FINITA y CRISTO REY EN EL APOCALIPSIS.  Además, en idioma francés, copia fotostática del libro titulado LES BLATTES DU VATICAN.
E.-  $1,000 Dólares para cubrir el envío de todo lo anterior, más (1) un videocasete VHS tomado de EWTN donde se ve clara la Apostasía de la Iglesia; (2) un audio casete de un discurso pronunciado por el último sacerdote Jesuita de la historia, el R.P. José Payá Sanchis, español que hizo su apostolado misionero católico en Guatemala, Centroamérica; (3) un audio casete de una conferencia dictada por el Lic. Wulfrano Ruiz Sainz a estudiantes de Derecho de la Universidad de Tijuana, sobre el tema Las Relaciones entre el Estado y la Iglesia; (4) colección de diversas herejías, blasfemias y estupideces dichas por el Cardenal Ratázinger y recientemente por el hoy *Papa* Ratónzinger; (6) fotografía a colores de la Virgen de Guadalupe tomada directamente de la tilma original; (5) fotografía (tomada en 1924 en blanco y negro) del verdadero rostro de la Santísima Virgen María, el cual yace oculto debajo de la fisonomía azteca de la Virgen de Guadalupe; (6) un Rosario cuyas cuentas están hechas de pétalos de rosa reales, fragantes y aromáticas ; (7) copia fotostática (en Inglés) de la Carta que Poncio Pilatos le escribió a Tiberio César, donde narra los hechos que le constan sobre los últimos días de Nuestro Señor en la Tierra; y (Cool copia fotostática del libro editado poco antes de morir  por el R.P. José Payá Sanchis, S.J., titulado «MECANISMOS DE SALVACIÓN CUANDO YA NO HAYA SACERDOTE»   
       El dinero en dólares, o su equivalente en Pesos mexicanos al tipo de cambio que rija el día de su compra, se envía por clave numérica de WESTERN UNION comunicada previamente al autor.
     Gracias por su envío de dinero, en virtud del cual puedo yo dedicarme exclusivamente a la investigación católica apologética y redacción de textos de combate.  Atte. Wulfrano.  Ω.
Lic. Wulfrano Ruiz Sainz,  Calle 7 Galeana No. 8290,  Zona Centro, Tijuana, Baja California, México 22000.  E-mail:  wulfranoruiz@gmail.com  Tel. en Tijuana: 664-6389085
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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2011, 06:12:AM »

Quote from: wulfrano
Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat

A Church not built on St. Peter but on false Popes is not the Catholic Church.

Sir, what do you can you say about this statement from Vatican I?:

"If anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the Lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema."
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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2011, 03:28:PM »

Quote from: wulfrano
Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat

A Church not built on St. Peter but on false Popes is not the Catholic Church.

Sir, what do you can you say about this statement from Vatican I?:

"If anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the Lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema."


Dear sir:  The infallible words of Vatican Council I refer to all the Popes who would be authentic succesors of St. Peter, that is, faithful to Tradition.  The last five "Popes" have destroyed Catholic Tradition.  Therefore they cannot be true Popes.
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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2011, 05:37:PM »

Quote from: wulfrano
Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat

A Church not built on St. Peter but on false Popes is not the Catholic Church.

Sir, what do you can you say about this statement from Vatican I?:

"If anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the Lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema."


Dear sir:  The infallible words of Vatican Council I refer to all the Popes who would be authentic succesors of St. Peter, that is, faithful to Tradition.  The last five "Popes" have destroyed Catholic Tradition.  Therefore they cannot be true Popes.

Then, Wulfrano, you do not that 'blessed Perter should have perpetual successors...', but just until the gates of hell prevailed over the Church in 1958?
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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2011, 06:27:PM »

Quote from: wulfrano
Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat

A Church not built on St. Peter but on false Popes is not the Catholic Church.

Sir, what do you can you say about this statement from Vatican I?:

"If anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the Lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema."


Dear sir:  The infallible words of Vatican Council I refer to all the Popes who would be authentic succesors of St. Peter, that is, faithful to Tradition.  The last five "Popes" have destroyed Catholic Tradition.  Therefore they cannot be true Popes.

Then, Wulfrano, you do not that 'blessed Perter should have perpetual successors...', but just until the gates of hell prevailed over the Church in 1958?

Cher Jovan:  Perpetual is not eternal.  The gates of hell did not prevail against the Catholic Church.  Pius XII held the fort until his death.  The gates of hell prevailed against the unfaithful apostate wife called the Montinian Church.
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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2011, 06:33:PM »

Quote from: wulfrano
Not to worry.  In the Novus Ordo there is no valid consecration.

Sorry, pal, but I actually believe in Matthew 16:18.  Thanks anyway. Tip o' the hat

A Church not built on St. Peter but on false Popes is not the Catholic Church.

Sir, what do you can you say about this statement from Vatican I?:

"If anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the Lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema."


Dear sir:  The infallible words of Vatican Council I refer to all the Popes who would be authentic succesors of St. Peter, that is, faithful to Tradition.  The last five "Popes" have destroyed Catholic Tradition.  Therefore they cannot be true Popes.

Then, Wulfrano, you do not that 'blessed Perter should have perpetual successors...', but just until the gates of hell prevailed over the Church in 1958?

Cher Jovan:  Perpetual is not eternal.  The gates of hell did not prevail against the Catholic Church.  Pius XII held the fort until his death.  The gates of hell prevailed against the unfaithful apostate wife called the Montinian Church.

Mon ami, since they are no valid Cardinals left to elect a Pope and no Pope to change the legislation on the Conclave, how can you say that their is a way out? There is no Pope and no way of electing one? By your logic, the gates of hell have prevailed.
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