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From a member (and future missionary) of the Assemblies of God: This is the week that Jews worldwide mourn the destruction of both Temples thousands of years ago. Lets pray for Israel and that they find Yeshua the savior and for peace to fill Israel Discuss. |
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 11:55:AM » |
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We still pray for their conversion with the revised Good Friday prayer:
"Let us also pray for the Jews: that our God and Lord may illuminate their hearts, that they acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the Savior of all men. Almighty and eternal God, who want that all men be saved and come to the recognition of the truth, propitiously grant that even as the fullness of the peoples enters Your Church, all Israel may be saved. Through Christ Our Lord. Amen."
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 01:00:PM » |
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From a member (and future missionary) of the Assemblies of God: This is the week that Jews worldwide mourn the destruction of both Temples thousands of years ago. Lets pray for Israel and that they find Yeshua the savior and for peace to fill Israel Discuss. Why "Yeshua" and not "Jesus"? So Jews can relate better? This smells of judaising. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 01:12:PM » |
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From a member (and future missionary) of the Assemblies of God: This is the week that Jews worldwide mourn the destruction of both Temples thousands of years ago. Lets pray for Israel and that they find Yeshua the savior and for peace to fill Israel Discuss. Why "Yeshua" and not "Jesus"? So Jews can relate better? This smells of judaising.  Sounds like some trads want to go see this guy in Israel.. cool |
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"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation. When there was need to observe the Law, they trampled it under foot. Now that the Law has ceased to bind, they obstinately strive to observe it. What could be more pitiable that those who provoke God not only by transgressing the Law but also by keeping it? But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: "If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father". Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?" St. John Chrysostom Sunday Homily
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 06:52:PM » |
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From a member (and future missionary) of the Assemblies of God: This is the week that Jews worldwide mourn the destruction of both Temples thousands of years ago. Lets pray for Israel and that they find Yeshua the savior and for peace to fill Israel Discuss. Why "Yeshua" and not "Jesus"? So Jews can relate better? This smells of judaising. I don't think it's "judaising"...it's likely an effective tactic used by missionaries...and not just Protestant ones. What surprised me, was that I did not know that Protestants pray for Jews to convert...since it's been stated as a fact over and over and over again here and elsewhere (in trad Catholic circles) that only the pre-Vat II Church did this. And it can't be a bad thing that Prots are praying for God to give the Jews the graces to become Christians. |
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 07:52:PM » |
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From a member (and future missionary) of the Assemblies of God: This is the week that Jews worldwide mourn the destruction of both Temples thousands of years ago. Lets pray for Israel and that they find Yeshua the savior and for peace to fill Israel Discuss. Why "Yeshua" and not "Jesus"? So Jews can relate better? This smells of judaising. I don't think it's "judaising"...it's likely an effective tactic used by missionaries...and not just Protestant ones. What surprised me, was that I did not know that Protestants pray for Jews to convert...since it's been stated as a fact over and over and over again here and elsewhere (in trad Catholic circles) that only the pre-Vat II Church did this. And it can't be a bad thing that Prots are praying for God to give the Jews the graces to become Christians. Protestants that believe that the Christian religion is absolutely necessary for salvation surely pray for the conversion of Jews and all non-Christians. They also set up missions directed at those people. |
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"THE LORD is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the protector of my life: of whom shall I be afraid?" (Psalm 26:1)
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 08:27:PM » |
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Praying for the conversion of the Jews reeks of antisemitism......  |
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 11:10:PM » |
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From a member (and future missionary) of the Assemblies of God: This is the week that Jews worldwide mourn the destruction of both Temples thousands of years ago. Lets pray for Israel and that they find Yeshua the savior and for peace to fill Israel Discuss. Why "Yeshua" and not "Jesus"? So Jews can relate better? This smells of judaising. I don't think it's "judaising"...it's likely an effective tactic used by missionaries...and not just Protestant ones. What surprised me, was that I did not know that Protestants pray for Jews to convert...since it's been stated as a fact over and over and over again here and elsewhere (in trad Catholic circles) that only the pre-Vat II Church did this. And it can't be a bad thing that Prots are praying for God to give the Jews the graces to become Christians. that believe that the Christian religion is absolutely necessary for salvation surely pray for the conversion of Jews and all non-Christians. They also set up missions directed at those people. I hope that by Christian religion, you mean Catholic. Let's pray for the conversion of protestants. |
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"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation. When there was need to observe the Law, they trampled it under foot. Now that the Law has ceased to bind, they obstinately strive to observe it. What could be more pitiable that those who provoke God not only by transgressing the Law but also by keeping it? But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: "If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father". Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?" St. John Chrysostom Sunday Homily
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 12:54:AM » |
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Protestants that believe that the Christian religion is absolutely necessary for salvation surely pray for the conversion of Jews and all non-Christians.
They also set up missions directed at those people.
Hell, they set up missions to convert other prots in the same broad category. Back in the 60s I knew some Southern Baptist missionaries who trying to convert the American Baptists to save them from hellfire.  |
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 01:02:AM » |
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"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation. When there was need to observe the Law, they trampled it under foot. Now that the Law has ceased to bind, they obstinately strive to observe it. What could be more pitiable that those who provoke God not only by transgressing the Law but also by keeping it? But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: "If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father". Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?" St. John Chrysostom Sunday Homily
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