Holocaust Quasi-religion in Cultural War

[Someone1776]

How nice.  A visit from Pedro! 

Pedro is not real. 

[mikemac]

I found another article on the subject "The Holocaust is now Catholic Dogma"

I would need proof from the Vatican to believe this.



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[Someone1776]

So, Saint Teresia Benedicta of the Cross just faked her death?

[devotedknuckles]

there is no doubt many many many many many of innocent people Jews catholics Roma u name it were massmurdered by the Nazi regime. further the Nazi regime was condemned by the church. it was an enemy of the church. look at national socialist polices towards the church, its schools etc etc in germany duringthe third Reich. in no way can they be even remotely considered a friends. many catholics had allot of plm serving them. many did. some revolted. but the church has been very clear in its condemnation of national socalsm
the numbers have changed. that's sure. in the end whether 3 million or 10 million or 1 million died. it was to many. as an aside Canada is the only country honored by the Nazis with a wing of Auschwitz named after it.
sip

[Stanley Sas]

there is no doubt many many many many many of innocent people Jews catholics Roma u name it were massmurdered by the Nazi regime. further the Nazi regime was condemned by the church. it was an enemy of the church. look at national socialist polices towards the church, its schools etc etc in germany duringthe third Reich. in no way can they be even remotely considered a friends. many catholics had allot of plm serving them. many did. some revolted. but the church has been very clear in its condemnation of national socalsm
the numbers have changed. that's sure. in the end whether 3 million or 10 million or 1 million died. it was to many. as an aside Canada is the only country honored by the Nazis with a wing of Auschwitz named after it.
sip

For many years American media, supported by influential lobby, launched a propaganda war against Poland, by force of libel, slander, defamation, no other ethnic group in United States has ever suffered.  One of those “weapons” is malicious calling Nazi German concentration camps as “Polish concentration camps”  by American media, including respected New York Times.
 
“The New York-born Chief Rabbi of Poland, Michael Schudrich, says, "Accusing Poles of participation in the Holocaust is a sin." Yet on a regular basis, American journalists do just that by calling Auschwitz a "Polish concentration camp." This is Holocaust revisionism.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-storozynski/the-medias-slander-of-pol_b_773173.html
 
“I"n an effort to falsify history, Poland, a country attacked and devastated by Nazi Germany, is nowadays often placed as an aggressor nation alongside Germany or with charges of collaboration with Germany. In A History of the Holocaust, (1982) the eminent and responsible Jewish historian, Yehuda Bauer writes: "Three million Poles were murdered by the Nazis during the course of the war, by methods best defined as selective genocide. The Polish intelligentsia, the Catholic priesthood - especially in Western Poland - and a large peasant population fell victim to the Nazi desire to eliminate the proud Polish nation. In contrast to other European nations, practically no political figures in Poland cooperated politically with the Nazis." When charges of collaboration are made, they are without any supportive facts or even names. Such charges originated with the Soviets to incite Jewish Communists after the War to murder Poles. Because of traditional Jewish anti-Polonism, the Soviets could rely on the Jews. The murderers later fled to Israel or to United States, - read Sack, Toranska, Raina (in Polish). The U.S. Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations aggressively searches for Nazis but to date has avoided entirely the matter of Jewish murderers living as "survivors". Furthermore, charges against Poland, other Catholic countries, Christianity in general, all are made (apart from "there is no business like Shoah business") to cover-up and prevent scrutiny of the tragic fact that without Jewish collaboration, the Holocaust would not have happened, - even the hangman was Jewish said Hannah Arendt in Eichman in Jerusalem (1963). Read also The Seventh Million (1993) by Tom Segev, Stella (1992) by Peter Wyden, Special Treatment (1985) by Alan Abrams, Perfidy (1961) by Ben Hecht, The Transfer Agreement (1984) by Edwin Black (except for an improbable story of his parents' survival, Black's book is excellent).
The above barely introduces the magnitude of the problem. It is being brought to the attention of the American and world public with the hope of sufficiently awakening interest to stimulate thorough scrutiny. Jews are called upon to consider the long-term consequences of hatemongering.” "(Dana Alvi www.papurec.org)

[devotedknuckles]

What does any of that have to do with my  post ?

[Heinrich]

I don't think National Socialism was ever condemned by the Church. Furthermore, the allies murdered for many more people than National Socialists. And furtherermore, the it was the governments of Great Britain, France, Canada, and the United States who ultimately sought the destruction of Germany due to its overwhelming awesomeness and threat to their masonic world order. True story.

[jovan66102]

I don't think National Socialism was ever condemned by the Church.

I suggest you read Mit brennender Sorge, the Encyclical of Pope Pius XI, which goes so far as to describe Hitler as a 'mad prophet possessed of repulsive arrogance.'

[Heinrich]

I don't think National Socialism was ever condemned by the Church.

I suggest you read Mit brennender Sorge, the Encyclical of Pope Pius XI, which goes so far as to describe Hitler as a 'mad prophet possessed of repulsive arrogance.'

I was hoping you would reply, Jovan. And I was hoping you would mention MBS. Just becasue the pope had an opinion of a head of a political state does not mean that in and of itself the government of Germany was condemned by the Vatican or elevated to dogma. Yes, yes, yes there is much to criticize in the creature that is National Socialism, mostly that it did not pursue the social reign of Christ nor grant the Church pre eminent status. However, revisionist(read, non pc) history demonstrates that the German Reich of 1933-45 was not bent on world conquest or the extermination of any one particular religion or race. It's sole aim was to make Germany a materialistic, industrial power; it saw Bolshevism and its willing executioners, the Judaics, as credible threats to this.

The United States had no business whatsoever engaging in wars against Germania. And this whole Holocause thing is a pack of lies.

There's no business lie Shoah business.

[jovan66102]

I don't think National Socialism was ever condemned by the Church.

I suggest you read Mit brennender Sorge, the Encyclical of Pope Pius XI, which goes so far as to describe Hitler as a 'mad prophet possessed of repulsive arrogance.'

I was hoping you would reply, Jovan. And I was hoping you would mention MBS. Just becasue the pope had an opinion of a head of a political state does not mean that in and of itself the government of Germany was condemned by the Vatican or elevated to dogma. Yes, yes, yes there is much to criticize in the creature that is National Socialism, mostly that it did not pursue the social reign of Christ nor grant the Church pre eminent status. However, revisionist(read, non pc) history demonstrates that the German Reich of 1933-45 was not bent on world conquest or the extermination of any one particular religion or race. It's sole aim was to make Germany a materialistic, industrial power; it saw Bolshevism and its willing executioners, the Judaics, as credible threats to this.

The United States had no business whatsoever engaging in wars against Germania. And this whole Holocause thing is a pack of lies.

There's no business lie Shoah business.

Interesting. I've just reread the Encyclical, and you're right, of course that there is no condemnation of plans for world conquest or the extermination of any one particular religion or race. Those were still in the future. What the Encyclical is, is a ringing condemnation of National Socialist ideology. I've included a few pertinent quotes for those unfamiliar with the document:

8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.

11. None but superficial minds could stumble into concepts of a national God, of a national religion; or attempt to lock within the frontiers of a single people, within the narrow limits of a single race, God, the Creator of the universe, King and Legislator of all nations before whose immensity they are "as a drop of a bucket" (Isaiah xI, 15).

13. We thank you, Venerable Brethren, your priests and Faithful, who have persisted in their Christian duty and in the defense of God's rights in the teeth of an aggressive paganism. Our gratitude, warmer still and admiring, goes out to those who, in fulfillment of their duty, have been deemed worthy of sacrifice and suffering for the love of God.

39. We address Our special greetings to the Catholic parents. Their rights and duties as educators, conferred on them by God, are at present the stake of a campaign pregnant with consequences. The Church cannot wait to deplore the devastation of its altars, the destruction of its temples, if an education, hostile to Christ, is to profane the temple of the child's soul consecrated by baptism, and extinguish the eternal light of the faith in Christ for the sake of counterfeit light alien to the Cross.