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Mithrandylan
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2011, 12:49:AM »
I would love to hear Rosariums input on circumcision. 
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2011, 12:51:AM »
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I would love to hear Rosariums input on circumcision. 

Not me! Been there, done that and I didn't even get a tee shirt! LOL
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2011, 12:53:AM »
Here's my only thinking on circumcision...

It's the norm in western society (or at least in America).  The poor kid would probably be teased when he was involved with sports and may have to have a strange conversation with his wife-to-be one day.

I really don't know much about it, but it seems like life is just easier for the kid.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 10:54:PM »
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Here's my only thinking on circumcision...

It's the norm in western society (or at least in America).  The poor kid would probably be teased when he was involved with sports and may have to have a strange conversation with his wife-to-be one day.

I really don't know much about it, but it seems like life is just easier for the kid.

Given the long list of potential side effects (including death from blood loss - often hidden by the absorbency of a disposable diaper), I don't think "he might be teased" is a good enough reason. Kids will find a reason to tease others, no matter what you do.

And strange conversations? I recall this conversation between my husband I just before we were married. It wasn't that strange.


I think people grossly overestimate the looking different issue.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 11:02:PM »
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Quote from: Walty
Here's my only thinking on circumcision...

It's the norm in western society (or at least in America).  The poor kid would probably be teased when he was involved with sports and may have to have a strange conversation with his wife-to-be one day.

I really don't know much about it, but it seems like life is just easier for the kid.

Given the long list of potential side effects (including death from blood loss - often hidden by the absorbency of a disposable diaper), I don't think "he might be teased" is a good enough reason. Kids will find a reason to tease others, no matter what you do.

And strange conversations? I recall this conversation between my husband I just before we were married. It wasn't that strange.


I think people grossly overestimate the looking different issue.


How often do kids die from circumcision?  I think that's extremely rare.
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Quote from: Rev. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange O.P.
The Church is intolerant in principle because she believes;
she is tolerant in practice because she loves.
The enemies of the Church are tolerant in principle because they do not believe;
 they are intolerant in practice because they do not love.

Timorem Domini docebo vos.


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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2011, 11:07:PM »
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Given the long list of potential side effects


LOL


the only side effect I can think of is more oral sex....hummmm


sounds like a net gain
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2011, 07:14:AM »
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Given the long list of potential side effects (including death from blood loss - often hidden by the absorbency of a disposable diaper), I don't think "he might be teased" is a good enough reason. Kids will find a reason to tease others, no matter what you do.

For what is worth:
In large studies of infant circumcision in the United States, reported inpatient complication rates range from 0.2% to 2.0% [1, 14, 15]. The most common complications in the United States are minor bleeding and local infection.

.... There were no reported deaths or long-term sequelae documented [9, 10, 11, 16].

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2011, 10:33:AM »
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Here's my only thinking on circumcision...

It's the norm in western society (or at least in America).  The poor kid would probably be teased when he was involved with sports and may have to have a strange conversation with his wife-to-be one day.

I really don't know much about it, but it seems like life is just easier for the kid.

It's not as popular as it was even 20 years ago. Circumcision rates in the US are anywhere from 50% (coasts) to 80% (midwest) and declining. It is highly unlikely that any boy born in 2011 is going to be the weirdo in the locker room.

The risks and benefits on both sides of the coin are small. Most circumcised boys do just fine as do most uncircumcised boys. It boils down to what the parents can live with. Personally, at this point in the parenting adventure I can't stand to see my baby boys cut anymore . I have 5 boys. 4 circ'd, 1 not.  Uncirc'd baby boy has had zero issues. Circ'd baby boys almost all had adhesions, where the foreskin tries to readhere, necessitating pulling it back manually, which is pretty much like pulling apart a fresh wound daily to keep it from healing.
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2011, 02:02:PM »
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It's not as popular as it was even 20 years ago. Circumcision rates in the US are anywhere from 50% (coasts) to 80% (midwest) and declining. It is highly unlikely that any boy born in 2011 is going to be the weirdo in the locker room.

This was my impression. Where did you find your stats?
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2011, 03:21:PM »
The most recent circ factsheet I know of:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm

A NYT with some very recent statistics:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/health/research/17circ.html?ref=health
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