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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2011, 03:49:PM » |
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Would a Muslim interrupting a nativity play make you more sympathetic to their views?
this isnt about trying to gain sympathy its about putting a stop to a vile evil
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2011, 04:55:PM » |
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My goodness, the relativism that the world and even forum members can display! We are not called to be contumelious and scandalous, but it's no moral degradation to throw feces at a picture of that heretic Mohammad. St. Ambrose, that blessed and holy bishop, opposed EMPEROR Theodosius to his face when the latter tried to enter Milan cathedral after having slaughtered thousands of innocent people in a siege. The holy bishop immediately denounced the Emperor and said he would be forbidden from entering into the Eucharist unless he did penance right there before everyone about to go in for Mass. He did not fear the Goths or his own sinful superiors, but said "DO PENANCE OR GTFO".
Ambrose didn't take any crap, because he believed our Lord is not to be mocked. In mocking Him by throwing crap at His very image, these evil people are denigrating the only "real presence" of Jesus in their normal, secularised lives. They need to have their emptied brains challenged. Our beloved youth did that in the best way they could.
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2011, 05:01:PM » |
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What do we do then when Muslims interrupt a nativity play because they find it offensive?
Would a Muslim interrupting a nativity play make you more sympathetic to their views?
good point.. Terrible point. 1) A nativity play is not meant as an offense to anyone's religious beliefs. A more proper counter-example would be a play where people threw feces at a picture of Muhammad. Who would blame Muslims if they interrupted a "play" like that? I certainly wouldn't. 2) Regardless of whether you live in a country with religious liberty or not, in and of itself no false religion has rights, especially no equal rights with the divine revealed religion of God. Thank you for the injection of common sense.
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2011, 05:09:PM » |
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How can some of you enjoy the movie Amadeus where there is a scene where a character burns a Crucifix?
How can some of you gush about Martin Scorsese and support his films when he made a movie that depicted Christ having sex with Mary Magdalene and then having a threesome?
Few of you cared about the Rome protestors that recently smashed a statue of Our Lady at a 19th century Church.
There is plenty of blasphemy going around, but what goes on in some French play that I never heard about and will never see I really don't care about.
It seems the more false the religion the more it's followers are concerned about the way it's founder is depicted.
I think often people like depicting Christ disrespectfully just because they want to get a reaction out of the faithful. I bet the people that organized this play are tickled pink that these protestors stormed the stage.
Again, I ask...what good did they do? Could they have expressed their outrage in a way that would have displeased the promoters of this play and made people really think about the way Christ is depicted in society? Interrupting a play and putting up a banner about Chirstianphobia doesn't really seem to do much other than invite negative attitudes toward traditionalists.
But, I do give props for the female protestors for wearing pants.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2011, 05:19:PM » |
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How can some of you enjoy the movie Amadeus where there is a scene where a character burns a Crucifix? Ugh I hate that liberal lie-fest of a movie. Let it be anathema. How can some of you gush about Martin Scorsese and support his films when he made a movie that depicted Christ having sex with Mary Magdalene and then having a threesome? Never liked Scorsese or any modern scum directors. Few of you cared about the Rome protestors that smashed a statue of Our Lady at a 19th century Church. Didn't know about that... stupid peasants. There is plenty of blasphemy going around, but what goes on in some French play that I never heard about and will never see I really don't care about.
It seems the more false the religion the more it's followers are concerned about the way it's founder is depicted.
I think often people like depicting Christ disrespectfully just because they want to get a reaction out of the faithful. I bet the people that organized this play are tickled pink that these protestors stormed the stage.
Again, I ask...what good did they do? Could they have expressed their outrage in a way that would have displeased the promoters of this play and made people really think about the way Christ is depicted in society? Interrupting a play and putting up a banner about Chirstianphobia doesn't really seem to do much other than invite negative attitudes toward traditionalists. We must combat the atheistic cultural diarrhea anywhere, in any little way. Just making the effort gets us out of our lethargy and fatigue at the constant crises. 
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2011, 05:55:PM » |
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Again, I ask...what good did they do? Could they have expressed their outrage in a way that would have displeased the promoters of this play and made people really think about the way Christ is depicted in society? Interrupting a play and putting up a banner about Chirstianphobia doesn't really seem to do much other than invite negative attitudes toward traditionalists. By their actions, they gave witness to Christ. They were a living proof that God will not be mocked and that Catholicism still exists in France as a social force outside churches and private houses. What the secularists and liberals want is feeble Christians who never interrupt anything, who never raise their voices, who are always politically correct, who never take action besides taking part in vigils here and there or praying the rosary. They want harmless sheep who restrict religion to the private sphere, they don't want politically and socially engaged Christians that can threaten the secular status quo. Listen to the cries of "fundamentalism" and all that crap coming from the press just because some people did the right and sane thing to do! It's incredible. 50 or 60 years ago this wouldn't even be an issue, much less 100 years ago. It shows how anti-Catholic the current establishment is. They did more than most of us will ever have the courage to do in our lives. I find it appalling that you go out of your way to criticise such a courageous act. What has happened to you? But, I do give props for the female protestors for wearing pants. Your need to sound witty and detached at all times is troubling.
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"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." — Clement, bishop of Rome
"I love truth," says he, "and not sects. I am sometimes a peripatetic, a stoic, or an academician, and often none of them; but—always a Christian. To philosophise is to love wisdom; and the true wisdom is Jesus Christ. Let us read the historians, the poets, and the philosophers; but let us have in our hearts the gospel of Jesus Christ, in which alone is perfect wisdom and perfect happiness." — Petrarch
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2011, 06:16:PM » |
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I am not sure what that accomplished.
Ever heard of Martyrs and witnessing the Faith ? That sort of thing ?
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2011, 06:33:PM » |
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I am not sure what that accomplished.
Ever heard of Martyrs and witnessing the Faith ? That sort of thing ? This. Matthew 5:10-12 (NKJV) "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. "
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Gegrüsst seist du, Maria, voll der Gnade; der Herr ist mit dir; du bist gebenedeit unter den Frauen und gebenedeit ist die Frucht deines Leibes, Jesus. Heilige Maria Mutter Gottes, bitte für uns Sünder, jetzt und in der Stunde unseres Todes. Amen.
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2011, 07:15:PM » |
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I am not sure what that accomplished.
Doing the right thing isn't usually about results, sometimes it's just about doing the right thing.
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2011, 08:24:PM » |
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Good for them!!!!! UP THE FRENCHIES!!!!!
This! French Catholics have balls. A rare phenomenon these days.
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