UK District Superior states there will be no regularization

[DrBombay]

I thought the Society already accepted the validity of the New Mass?  As far as Vatican II...it didn't propose any new dogmas, so why Rome is insisting they accept it is beyond my comprehension.

Maybe they won't be "regularized" at this time, but that doesn't mean someday they won't be.  They do have four bishops after all.  I'd say they hold most of the cards as far as continuing for the indefinite future just as they are.  Is a symbolic "unity" really desirable when the two sides still seem so far apart?

[Meg]

I thought the Society already accepted the validity of the New Mass?  As far as Vatican II...it didn't propose any new dogmas, so why Rome is insisting they accept it is beyond my comprehension.

Maybe they won't be "regularized" at this time, but that doesn't mean someday they won't be.  They do have four bishops after all.  I'd say they hold most of the cards as far as continuing for the indefinite future just as they are.  Is a symbolic "unity" really desirable when the two sides still seem so far apart?

I would agree that if the SSPX would regularize now it would likely only be symbolic on the part of the SSPX. At least they are being honest - if this latest communication is itself honest in what it states. There still isn't an official word from Menzingen on the subject as yet. But I've not yet seen that Bp. Fellay really had any real interest in regularizing, or reconciliation.

[FHM310]

Good for the FSSPX!

Catholic Faith and Tradition > "full communion"

Yes, Deo Gratias!

I don't think it is over yet. 

Would value your opinion as to why you say this.

Just a hunch. 

I must admit, I kind of agree.  Keep praying!

[Roger Buck]

  As far as Vatican II...it didn't propose any new dogmas, so why Rome is insisting they accept it is beyond my comprehension.

The radical breakthrough that has happened in this entire tragic story is that Rome  changed their policy of decades and said in effect that the SSPX could be in full communion without submission on non-dogmatic matters

It looked to me like the Holy Father was doing somersaults to accomodate the SSPX, but it appears as though it is stiil not enough

[Thomas58]

So the SSPX will likely not regularize. Well, that's hardly surprising. They really have no interest in regularizing, and likely never will, IMO.

They have no interest in uniting themselves with a bunch of Modernists. Rome has not changed its Modernist stripes a bit as was just demonstrated at the lastest heresy show in Assisi.

Thank God the SSPX is keeping Catholic Tradition alive.

[Meg]

Since it seems unlikely that the SSPX will regularize, what will become of them? Will they become like the Old Catholics, or more like the Lutherans? At some point, it will become obvious that they intend to remain independent of Rome. They may eventually become known as the Lefebvrean denomination, or the St. Pius X denomination or sect - or something like that. It's very sad, really.

[Gerard]

Since it seems unlikely that the SSPX will regularize, what will become of them? Will they become like the Old Catholics, or more like the Lutherans? At some point, it will become obvious that they intend to remain independent of Rome. They may eventually become known as the Lefebvrean denomination, or the St. Pius X denomination or sect - or something like that. It's very sad, really.

So, you think the Crisis in the Church wil never be solved?  Rome will never condemn the errors of our day which are running rampant in the Church?  That's the only reason the SSPX is not regular. 

[Atomagenesis]

The SSPX will not become a heretical church or sect, Rome will eventually denounce these errors, but I honestly don't think it will happen until after the great chastisement and the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary during the period of peace. There are some prophecies that there will be the greatest council in church history during the period of peace and all traditions will be restored, so that is what I look forward too. The SSPX are still keeping tradition alive, they are Catholic, how can they become some heretical, schismatic sect? They don't believe anything unCatholic.

The SSPX will not accept Vatican II as some kind of Super Dogmatic council that trumps all others, especially after 2 years of doctrinal talks. Assenting to everything Vatican II said, including those things which seem to be contrary to tradition, cannot be required of the SSPX for full communion, that's just an insult to them. Vatican II defined nothing infallible, there is nothing to assent to unless it is in line with universal and ordinary magesterium, that's all the SSPX wants. Until Rome stops trying to get them to drink the Vatican II kool-aid, nothing will happen.

[Thomas58]

Since it seems unlikely that the SSPX will regularize, what will become of them? Will they become like the Old Catholics, or more like the Lutherans? At some point, it will become obvious that they intend to remain independent of Rome. They may eventually become known as the Lefebvrean denomination, or the St. Pius X denomination or sect - or something like that. It's very sad, really.

What is sad is that the Modernists in Rome will not repent and convert to the Catholic Faith.

[Laetare]

There is so much arrogance oozing out of this thread. Every single heresy that the Church ever faced was accepted by most of or all the eastern bishops, and Rome never once fell into any of the wacky ideas. For one heresy, there was one amazing, orthodox Pope to infallibly define why it was wrong. This happened with Marcionites, Valentinians, Arians, Gnostics, Monophysitists, Monothelites, Iconoclasts, and myriad other heretical "denominations". I am more inclined to side with humility and faith in God's Church than to pridefully proclaim that I and the tiny little SSPX know more than the eternal and undying Rome.

You're all a bunch of rationalists, closer to your despised Protestantism than you would like to admit. If SSPX think they can catechise the source of all doctrine, let them be anathema and forgotten in their petty delusions of grandeur. The FSSP is perfectly fine with everything.