Recommended Missal

[GloriaPatri]

Hi again everyone!! So, to sum up my week one of Notre Dame's Catholic student groups went on a trip to St. John Cantius in Chicago to experience a Solemn High Requiem Mass for All Souls Day. I always thought that nothing could beat a Tridentine Low Mass in beauty, that is until I experienced the full solemnity of a Solemn High Mass!  And since now the Tridenine Mass on campus has now recently been changed to Solemn High Mass I have an even greater incentive to go each Sunday! (Ps we're trying to get a Tridentine Mass celebrated in the Basilica of the Sacred Heart here on campus. Please pray that we may be succesful    )

Anyway, my question is what missal do you all recommend for Mass? They have little paper missals, but those are somewhat hard to follow. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

GloriaPatri

[Someone1776]

The Angelus Missal is generally regarded as the best missal around, but it will set you back 60 bucks.

I would suggest buying a cheap used missal to get started.

The following missal will work fine for you:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MY-SUNDAY-MISSAL-EXPLAINED-LATIN-ENGLISH-ORDINARY-1942-/270810347299?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item3f0d8df723

[joe17]

Gloria Patri,

   What 1776 said about a used missal is good advice.  I started with a St Joseph's missal myself.  In a way, it is probably one of the easier missal's to follow and also gives decent descriptions of what is going on.  It also has a decent amount of devotional prayers.  Probably it's most noticeable drawback(at least to some) is that while, of course, the ordinary prayers of the Mass are in Latin and English, the propers(those they correspond to the Mass of the day) are in English only.  It is also on the compact side.
   For large, fuller missals, with Latin and English propers, Fr Lasance is what I would recommend.  It's major drawback for some is that it follows the Pre-Pius XII holyweek, not the holyweek authorised in 1956.  Not a dealbreaker.  St Andrews is probably the fullest available missal, with the old holy week as well.  Both of these are around $60.
  Another missal worthy of consideration is the New Marian Missal, a reprint from 1958.  It is fairly complete and goes for around $40. 
Regardless of which one you end up getting, it makes it easier in the pew and can help you at times get closer to what is going on at Mass, even though to just pray without the book at times can be productive as well.

  Joe

[Scriptorium]

I favor St Andrews and the Lesance. St Andrews has a lot of detailed notes and rubrics. They are pre-1955. Both have good translations.

[Mithrandylan]

I think the St Joseph translations are terrible.  I'd rather go missal-less. 

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. 

P I will go in to the altar of God.
S The God of my gladness and joy

PSALM 42

P Do me justice, O God, and fight my fight against a faithless people; from the decietful and impious man rescue me
S For You, O God, are my strength.  Why do You keep me so far away?  Why must I go about in mourning, withthe enemy oppressing me?
P Send forth Your light and Your fidelity; they shall lead me on and bring me to Your holy mountain and to Your dwelling-place.
S Then will I go in to the altar of God, the God of my gladness and Joy.
P Then will I give You thanks upon the hapr, O God, my God!  Why are you so downcast, O my soul?  Why do you sigh within me?
S Hope in God!  For I shall again be tahkning Him, in the presence of my Savior and my God.
P Glory be...

Notice how Thy, Thou, Thee is replaced with the "You."  And that God is referred to as "the" God of gladness of joy.  As if there were others?

For reference, what you can expect from pretty much any other 62 or prior missal:

Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause from the nation that is not holy: deliver me from the unjust and deceitful man.
R. For Thou, O God, art my strength: why hast Thou cast me off? and why do I go sorrowful whilst the enemy afflictech me?
V. Send forth Thy light and Thy truth: they have led me and brought me unto Thy holy hill, and into Thy tabernacles.
R. And I will go in unto the Altar of God: unto God, Who giveth joy to my youth.
V. I will praise Thee upon the harp, O God, my God: why art thou sad, O my soul? and why dost thou disquiet me?
R. Hope thou in God, for I will yet praise Him: Who is the salvation of my countenance, and my God.

[Scriptorium]

I think the St Joseph translations are terrible.  I'd rather go missal-less. 

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. 

P I will go in to the altar of God.
S The God of my gladness and joy

PSALM 42

P Do me justice, O God, and fight my fight against a faithless people; from the decietful and impious man rescue me
S For You, O God, are my strength.  Why do You keep me so far away?  Why must I go about in mourning, withthe enemy oppressing me?
P Send forth Your light and Your fidelity; they shall lead me on and bring me to Your holy mountain and to Your dwelling-place.
S Then will I go in to the altar of God, the God of my gladness and Joy.
P Then will I give You thanks upon the hapr, O God, my God!  Why are you so downcast, O my soul?  Why do you sigh within me?
S Hope in God!  For I shall again be tahkning Him, in the presence of my Savior and my God.
P Glory be...

Notice how Thy, Thou, Thee is replaced with the "You."  And that God is referred to as "the" God of gladness of joy.  As if there were others?

For reference, what you can expect from pretty much any other 62 or prior missal:

Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause from the nation that is not holy: deliver me from the unjust and deceitful man.
R. For Thou, O God, art my strength: why hast Thou cast me off? and why do I go sorrowful whilst the enemy afflictech me?
V. Send forth Thy light and Thy truth: they have led me and brought me unto Thy holy hill, and into Thy tabernacles.
R. And I will go in unto the Altar of God: unto God, Who giveth joy to my youth.
V. I will praise Thee upon the harp, O God, my God: why art thou sad, O my soul? and why dost thou disquiet me?
R. Hope thou in God, for I will yet praise Him: Who is the salvation of my countenance, and my God.

I agree it is a pretty uninspiring translation, but the the is in the LXX and understood in the Hebrew context that the first God is Elohim and the second God is El. They obviously were trying to convey a meaning found in the Hebrew. I don't think the article there adds much.

[Richard C]

The Mass is a great blessing, isn't it?

I like "My Sunday Missal" by Father Stedman. Mine is a reprint of the 1955 (with a few necessary updates) from Neumann Press. I favor it because it fits easily in my pocket when I go up for Holy Communion and I couldn't beat the price: $25

If you can attend daily EF Masses it isn't the missal for you though, as it only has propers for Sundays, major feasts, Holy Days of obligation, Requiem, and Nuptial Masses.

[Adam Wayne]

Hi again everyone!! So, to sum up my week one of Notre Dame's Catholic student groups went on a trip to St. John Cantius in Chicago to experience a Solemn High Requiem Mass for All Souls Day. I always thought that nothing could beat a Tridentine Low Mass in beauty, that is until I experienced the full solemnity of a Solemn High Mass!  And since now the Tridenine Mass on campus has now recently been changed to Solemn High Mass I have an even greater incentive to go each Sunday! (Ps we're trying to get a Tridentine Mass celebrated in the Basilica of the Sacred Heart here on campus. Please pray that we may be succesful    )

Anyway, my question is what missal do you all recommend for Mass? They have little paper missals, but those are somewhat hard to follow. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

GloriaPatri

I was there. That's my parish. What did you think of the homilist? Last year it was a Pontifical HIgh Mass with +Joseph Perry celebrating. I think it is great that Notre Dame and a couple of other schools were invited and had reserved seating for this Mass. For those of you who constantly complain about the NO, this is how you bring the flock to Tradition. They actually do something about it. But, as usual, I digress.

If you are going to attend the TLM Mass mostly on Sundays, I would suggest finding a Sunday Missal on ebay. Unless someone is still making them new. Much easier to hold in your hand duriing Mass and not nearly the amount of page turning requried. Who needs to flip around, or mark in advance the Preface of the Most Holy Trinity for Sundays?

Of course you will want a Daily Missal for study, or on those days you attend during the week.

Again, I would recommend finding a gently used Missal on ebay. The old ones are much slimmer volumes. St. Andrew Missals are my Missals of choice.

By the way, for a study Missal, you must own the St. Andrew Daily Missal from 1945 with Vespers for Sundays and princiapal Feasts. It is in reprint at St. Bonaventure Press.

[Old Salt]

I think the St Joseph translations are terrible.  I'd rather go missal-less. 

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. 

P I will go in to the altar of God.
S The God of my gladness and joy

PSALM 42

P Do me justice, O God, and fight my fight against a faithless people; from the decietful and impious man rescue me
S For You, O God, are my strength.  Why do You keep me so far away?  Why must I go about in mourning, withthe enemy oppressing me?
P Send forth Your light and Your fidelity; they shall lead me on and bring me to Your holy mountain and to Your dwelling-place.
S Then will I go in to the altar of God, the God of my gladness and Joy.
P Then will I give You thanks upon the hapr, O God, my God!  Why are you so downcast, O my soul?  Why do you sigh within me?
S Hope in God!  For I shall again be tahkning Him, in the presence of my Savior and my God.
P Glory be...

Notice how Thy, Thou, Thee is replaced with the "You."  And that God is referred to as "the" God of gladness of joy.  As if there were others?

For reference, what you can expect from pretty much any other 62 or prior missal:

Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause from the nation that is not holy: deliver me from the unjust and deceitful man.
R. For Thou, O God, art my strength: why hast Thou cast me off? and why do I go sorrowful whilst the enemy afflictech me?
V. Send forth Thy light and Thy truth: they have led me and brought me unto Thy holy hill, and into Thy tabernacles.
R. And I will go in unto the Altar of God: unto God, Who giveth joy to my youth.
V. I will praise Thee upon the harp, O God, my God: why art thou sad, O my soul? and why dost thou disquiet me?
R. Hope thou in God, for I will yet praise Him: Who is the salvation of my countenance, and my God.

St Josephs is very weak.
It reminds me of the new Baronius Press Brevarium which also uses the You and Yours instead of the Thee and Thou.
Why!!???

[GloriaPatri]

Haha Adam Wayne what a small world we live in! I thought the homilist was absolutely amazing! That was the most solid, orthodox, I'm-not-going-to-water-anything-down homily I have ever heard. I was particullarly pleased with his condemnation of the Spanish Republican government as

Marxist and Masonic. Never before had I had the pleasure of seeing those two abomidable beasts condemned! And everyone absolutely loved the Mass!! The only "complaint" I heard on the way home was that it was a bit difficult to follow along, since many of the prayers Fr. says he

whispers. However, as one girl (who attends the Tridentine Mass exclusively) said it does get easier over time. And I think part of the difficulty lay in having small paper missals and then a seperate booklet for the propers of the day that we had with us. Continually flipping between the two is

a bit of a challenge if its your first time. Even I havent gotten used to it yet! 

But yes, the homilist was amazing, the Mass was amazing, and everyone loved it. It caused two of my closest friends to decide to go to the Tridentine Mass with me every Sunday, and one of them, who happens to be my Big Brother on campus, basically agrees with me that we should

have a High Solemn Mass in the Basilica since we still have the original High Altar. God willing, we'll be able to work something out with Campus Ministry.