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Fontevrault
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 01:23:PM »

It took me a year to convince Pilgrim to attend the TLM whenever humanly possible.  Since it is 3 hours of driving just to be able to attend once a week, this took a lot of convincing.  He liked the TLM when we first went (once a month at a local parish) but also liked the NO.  About a year and a half ago, the more "local" TLM was canceled, so we were pretty much stuck in NO land - unless he was willing to make the drive.  So, I started finding reasons to delay going to mass until the "life teen" one.  He was stuck with the worste mass imaginable, kids who didn't care and obviously have had no formation, a priest who didn't preach anything remotely akin to Catholic doctrine, and music that could never be mistaken for an act worship.  He caved - eventually.  I did have to torture myself with a mass I don't find reverant at all and had a difficulty time praying at.  BUT, it worked.  To be fair, he was raised "Dutch Reformed" Protestant.  I attended a Christmas Eve service at his family's church once; they sang happy birthday to Jesus and had a puppet show.  His BS tolerance is considerably higher than mine.  - Which is probably why he puts up with me!   Grin
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 02:21:PM »

Encourage her to not only give it another try, but to understand a little bit about it first.  Providing her with a missal before going to Mass, showing her how to use it, and explaining the Mass to her in a gentle way will work wonders.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2011, 03:05:PM »

Encourage her to not only give it another try, but to understand a little bit about it first.  Providing her with a missal before going to Mass, showing her how to use it, and explaining the Mass to her in a gentle way will work wonders.

This is spot on advice, especially if your wife does not know Latin. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2011, 07:32:PM »

She has a moral obligation to obey you.

Force her to go.

This is horrible advice.

With a whip. I forgot that part.

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 10:26:PM »

She has a moral obligation to obey you.

Force her to go.

Oh Vetus I love you brother, but seriously, I took this route.  Now I'm divorced with two children. 
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 02:34:PM »

She has a moral obligation to obey you.

Force her to go.

Oh Vetus I love you brother, but seriously, I took this route.  Now I'm divorced with two children. 
Then Vetus did you a favor. Smile
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 04:24:PM »

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Dealing with loud kids?

Take that out of your worry box.  Trad priests love big families and kids.  Parishioners do to IF YOU MAKE AN EFFORT.

Here is a technique that hasn't failed yet.  The young ones especially want to be with Mommy.  Daddy is responsible for keeping them quiet.  First, the common sense thing is to keep them separated, one on each side of you.

When one starts acting up, DADDY takes him back to the lobby or cry room.  DO NOT LET HIM DOWN AND DON'T LET HIM PLAY.  NO REWARD FOR ACTING UP.  If he wails while you are walking out of Church, especially if he's yelling "I want Mommy", you are in good shape. ALSO, don't let that yelling bug you.  The parishioners are all thinking "Daddy's taking care of business.".

Now when you get him out of Church, either in the lobby or the cry room, HOLD HIM.  Let him scream as much as he wants.  Eventually he'll get the message and settle down.  Then tell him, "When you start acting like a big boy, we'll go back to Mommy".  When he looks ready, ask him if he is ready to act like a big boy now.   Tell him, ok, we'll go back and see Mommy, but if you are loud again, we're coming back here."  Then take him back in.

If this fails, then take him back to the cry room, drop his drawers, and spank him.  Generally give him two walk outs.  Walk out 3 is spanking time.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 04:32:PM »

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Dealing with loud kids?

Take that out of your worry box.  Trad priests love big families and kids.  Parishioners do to IF YOU MAKE AN EFFORT.

Here is a technique that hasn't failed yet.  The young ones especially want to be with Mommy.  Daddy is responsible for keeping them quiet.  First, the common sense thing is to keep them separated, one on each side of you.

When one starts acting up, DADDY takes him back to the lobby or cry room.  DO NOT LET HIM DOWN AND DON'T LET HIM PLAY.  NO REWARD FOR ACTING UP.  If he wails while you are walking out of Church, especially if he's yelling "I want Mommy", you are in good shape. ALSO, don't let that yelling bug you.  The parishioners are all thinking "Daddy's taking care of business.".

Now when you get him out of Church, either in the lobby or the cry room, HOLD HIM.  Let him scream as much as he wants.  Eventually he'll get the message and settle down.  Then tell him, "When you start acting like a big boy, we'll go back to Mommy".  When he looks ready, ask him if he is ready to act like a big boy now.   Tell him, ok, we'll go back and see Mommy, but if you are loud again, we're coming back here."  Then take him back in.

If this fails, then take him back to the cry room, drop his drawers, and spank him.  Generally give him two walk outs.  Walk out 3 is spanking time.

Hey James, I don't know if you've heard, but Walty and I are expecting our first baby in April.  I really like what you said here, so any other tips you want to send our way would be welcome.   
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 05:11:PM »

If she's your wife, then what's the problem? The man and husband is head of the household, doesn't seem like she has much say in the matter.
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 05:35:PM »

Put the wife on the scale each morning and only allow her 1 lb. per week of weight gain.   LOL

Congrats. Here's a good list:
1.  DON'T buy a baby monitor.  You'll be glued to it for every breath.
2.  DON'T use a pacifier.  If the baby is crying, it's hungry or wet.
3.  DON'T let the baby into bed.  The first time you do it, know that baby is staying there until he is 3.  (I broke this one on a couple of the kids)
4.  DON'T check the diaper every few minutes.  If it isn't finished peeing, and you change the diaper, you'll get pee'd on.  I once changed a diaper 3 times in 5 minutes, and got pee'd on.  The diaper does a good job with pee.  It won't hurt the baby if it is wet for a little bit.  Poop you'll smell.
5.  Put diapercide (what I call diaper cream) on every change.  Baby's skin should look like the underside of your arm.  If it is pink, diaper rash is starting.  If it is red, you messed up, and the baby will be miserable.  I really like Balmex.  Get plenty.  Coat his little arse with it.
6.  Experiment with various no-frills brand of diapers til you find a brand that won't cause a rash.
7.  Stay away from cloth diapers.  Major pain in the butt.
8.  If you have the baby in the hospital, be warned, the nursery staff is evil. They'll try to guilt you into taking the baby because they don't want to deal with him.  Mommy needs a day of rest minimum after having the baby.  When it is fed, and goes to sleep, Walty can wheel him back to the nursery.  You aren't an evil Mom if you do this.
9.  Men, find a place you can pray on your knees, especially if they have to do a cessarian.  Your knees are going to hit the floor.  Seeing your wife in pain is bad.
10.  Men, the reason you are there is NOT to experience the miracle of life or the other crap.  You are there for your wife.  Period. Keep that in your mind.
11.  Birthing class is good.  They throw in the "miracle of life" crap, but the mechanics you learn are worth it.
12.  Breast feed if all possible.
13.  Tough one for new parents.  After a month, set a bedtime.  That means baby gets fed, and put to bed.  If baby wakes up, then let him cry for a full 20 minutes.  Some people start with 5 minutes, then work up to 30 minutes.  Baby eventually will go back to sleep.  It works, they'll get into a sleeping pattern.  Usually next to impossible for first time moms.  They'll claw through the door and run over dad to get to the baby.
14.  Notify relatives they are welcome to come by to help out.  They aren't welcome to "visit" as mom will be exhausted the first month.  Dad, throw the bums out if you have to.
15.  If someone offers to drop off a meal for you, the correct answer is "Yes".
16.  Read the label on pre-natal vitamins and Walmart Sentry-Vite.  Same thing, save some money.  Also, get some calcium, magnesium, zinc (comes as one pill) and folic acid.
17.  First 2 months are rough with oftentimes puking involved.  Next 6 months seem like no big deal. Last month is hell.  Pregnant Mom needs naps and to get off her feet.
18.  Pregnant mom needs to eat plenty of celery, carrots, and drink water.
19.  Send hubby out at 1 am for a craving snack.  He's waiting for that to add to his war stories.
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