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Author Topic: St. Nicholas or Santa Claus?  (Read 1572 times)
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 12:28:PM »

We do both.  Today, our daughter awoke to money chocolate coins in her shoes and later we'll be helping at the local IRC centre, in the spirit of St Nicholas.  Then Santa comes on Christmas, but we always try to  preserve the Christmas idea,the emphasis on Christ and on giving.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 12:36:PM »

When I was a child we celebrated both.  On St. Nick's Day, he would bring us candy and some small presents and then, obviously, Santa would bring the really good stuff on Christmas.

Rose and I have talked about telling our children that St. Nick and Santa Claus are one in the same.  He brings some small gifts on his feast day, but really goes all out for the birth of Our Lord.

This is what we do with our children as well  Smile
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 02:22:PM »

Now there's a poster I haven't seen around in a long time. How are you Matt Talbot? Still hunting? Smile
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 03:02:PM »

When I was a child we celebrated both.  On St. Nick's Day, he would bring us candy and some small presents and then, obviously, Santa would bring the really good stuff on Christmas.

Rose and I have talked about telling our children that St. Nick and Santa Claus are one in the same.  He brings some small gifts on his feast day, but really goes all out for the birth of Our Lord.

THIS. This is how I was raised, so it's the good way.  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 05:02:PM »

Another tradition my family has is St Nick brings each of us an ornament for the Cristmas tree.  And I'll admit I'm spoiled, since today I got a new ornament, although I still haven't figured out how one man can get to all those houses in one night Doh!


And Happy St. Nicholas day!
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2011, 07:39:AM »

Neither. From a very early age my parents told me that Santa isn't real, and I always thought the whole Santa thing was retarded anyway. Nonetheless, I played along and we pretended that it was Santa leaving presents under the tree. I didn't grow up living with the illusion of Santa, though, so I don't know what that must have been like, but I don't feel like I missed out on much. A kid once told me that he seriously believed in Santa Claus until he was 14 and was absolutely devastated when he found out the truth... all I could think was 'wow, you loser.'

If I have children I'll probably just half-heartedly play the Santa Claus game as everyone else does, but not focus on it too much. I would want my kids to understand the significance of St Nicholas of Myra without the confusion of the Coca-Cola icon Santa Claus and stories about reindeer and elves. St Nicholas of Myra was an inspiring figure in his own right, and kids should learn to appreciate him for that, not confuse him with some materialist crap.

And the centre of Christmas celebrations for my family would obviously be the celebration of the Incarnation of Our Lord. Presents and decorated trees kind of fall into the periphery in comparison to that. I'd make the Nativity Scene the centrepiece rather than the presents under the Christmas tree. Besides, I don't think I'll be able to afford decent presents if I have a traddie-sized family :p

But in any case, let us remember:

This guy

 

is definately not this guy:




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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 10:09:AM »

St.Nicholas brings chocolate coins and maybe a small present. Presents appear under the Christmas tree after Midnight Mass after the children are asleep. Our kids all know it is their mom and dad doing the giving, we make no effort to trick them into thinking any saint or fictional character is doing any of it. Sure, we watch Rudolph and sing secular Christmas carols along with the religious and the kids run around shrieking about Krampus the night of Dec 5 and check their shoes to see what "St Nicholas" brought them but it is all just for fun, like handing me an empty plate from the play kitchen and telling me it is pizza, chocolate cake and potato chips. Are we all lying when I eat the air and pretend it all tastes so good?  There is play and pretend and there is real, reason and Faith, they both have places in our family celebrations of Christmas and other holidays but they are not all melded together for our kids only to be explained away and pulled apart later.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 12:15:PM »

Now there's a poster I haven't seen around in a long time. How are you Matt Talbot? Still hunting? Smile

doing well arun...got done butchering two deer yesterday...got about 145 lbs of meat in the freezer

 for the winter...gave some to a food pantry also...
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 10:53:PM »

Nice!
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 11:08:PM »

I and my siblings were never led on about Santa Claus.  We always knew he didn't exist and I can't really imagine ever believing in it (what a thing to do to your kids!).   Every now and then we'd find a present from "Santa" but we all knew who really gave it to us.   I think it's also nice for the kids to thank their parents for their gifts instead of thinking that Santa brought them.

As for St.  Nicholas, my family never did much for his feast day.
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