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Author Topic: Today's Office with the Octave of the Immaculate Conception  (Read 277 times)
Adam Wayne
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« on: December 14, 2011, 09:46:AM »

For those praying Divino Afflatu, I sent this note to Divinium Offficium. There are a few errors there. This is what I wrote:

I beleive there are some errors in today's Matins for Divino Afflatu.

Since the Gospel is the same for Ember Wednesday as is for the 7th Day of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, the ix Lesson should be read from the 7th Day within the Octave. And Lesson i from the Ember Day should not be read this year for Ember Wednesday. 

The Blessing should be "May the King of Angels bring us to the company of the Heavenly Citizens", for that Lesson. Not, "may the words of the Holy Gospel...etc."

Lessons i through iii, should be read from the Common of the BVM. Book of Wisdom, or Proverbs of Solomon, however it is labeled, with the Responses from Lesson i through iii from the Feast. In other words in a book one will have to flip from the Readings in the Common of the BVM, back to the Feast to read the Responses. But, we should not be reading from Genesis Chapter 3 in Lesson i, just using those Responses.

Finally, a Commeration of the Feria Day (Ember Wednesday) and I assume the Feria, should be prayed at Lauds.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 10:45:AM »

Who or where did you send it ?

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 11:37:AM »

Finally, a Commeration of the Feria Day (Ember Wednesday) and I assume the Feria, should be prayed at Lauds.

Ember Wednesday is the feria.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 12:21:PM »

Tim, I sent it to that emal address on the front of the page.

Scriptorium, I understand what you are saying. So in this unique situation the Commemoration is only of the Feria Ember Wednesday. I suppose this would be true if it were an Office of 3 Lessons as well, were it to be possible? In other words, since their is a Collect for the Ember Day, no Commemoration will be made of the preceeding Sunday, is this correct for all Ember Days? Thanks.

As a side note, I'm ordering the Bugnini Free Zone Calendar from Father Cedaka. Hopefully, this will help. I'm buying it either way, but does someone have access to an online, Ordinary, I suppose you would call it for Divino Afflatu for 2012?
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 06:09:PM »

Scriptorium, I understand what you are saying. So in this unique situation the Commemoration is only of the Feria Ember Wednesday. I suppose this would be true if it were an Office of 3 Lessons as well, were it to be possible? In other words, since their is a Collect for the Ember Day, no Commemoration will be made of the preceeding Sunday, is this correct for all Ember Days? Thanks.

If today were an Office of three Lessons, it would be of Ember Wednesday. Ferias of Advent and Lent are "greater non-privileged Ferias" and take precedence over Simple Feasts, so the Office would be of Ember Wednesday with a Commemoration of the Simple.

The preceding Sunday's Collect, as such, is not what is said - rather, it's the Collect of the current Feria, which is normally the same as the one for the Sunday. In other words, it's not said because the Sunday is commemorated (which it never is, except on the Sunday itself), but because the current Feria is. The Ember Days all have proper Collects, which are not, however, used at Vespers. (In the 1962 rubrics, the Collect for the Ember Day is used at all the Hours, including Vespers). So the Commemoration tonight will be Aurem tuam, and the same on Friday.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 09:42:PM »

Scriptorium, I understand what you are saying. So in this unique situation the Commemoration is only of the Feria Ember Wednesday. I suppose this would be true if it were an Office of 3 Lessons as well, were it to be possible? In other words, since their is a Collect for the Ember Day, no Commemoration will be made of the preceeding Sunday, is this correct for all Ember Days? Thanks.

If today were an Office of three Lessons, it would be of Ember Wednesday. Ferias of Advent and Lent are "greater non-privileged Ferias" and take precedence over Simple Feasts, so the Office would be of Ember Wednesday with a Commemoration of the Simple.

The preceding Sunday's Collect, as such, is not what is said - rather, it's the Collect of the current Feria, which is normally the same as the one for the Sunday. In other words, it's not said because the Sunday is commemorated (which it never is, except on the Sunday itself), but because the current Feria is. The Ember Days all have proper Collects, which are not, however, used at Vespers. (In the 1962 rubrics, the Collect for the Ember Day is used at all the Hours, including Vespers). So the Commemoration tonight will be Aurem tuam, and the same on Friday.

Thank you, Paul. Much appreciated.

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