Farewell to Vetus Ordo: Share the Memories

[Grasshopper]

. Another who was banned actually called someone "hymie" on this forum.
 

Is this an Americanism? I don't know what it means.

And the pile-on on Jayne is pretty unpleasant to to witness guys.

"Hymie" is derogatory slang for "Jew". Try as I might, though, I can't figure out what a "crypto-Jew" is supposed to be.     

[JayneK]

"Hymie" is derogatory slang for "Jew". Try as I might, though, I can't figure out what a "crypto-Jew" is supposed to be.     

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-Judaism

Crypto-Judaism is the secret adherence to Judaism while publicly professing to be of another faith; practitioners are referred to as "crypto-Jews" (origin from Greek kryptos - κρυπτός, 'hidden'). The term crypto-Jew is also used to describe descendants who maintain some Jewish traditions of their ancestors, often secretly, while publicly adhering to other faiths, most commonly Catholicism.

[tmw89]

[ . . . ] I have no qualms about disrupting the thread.  

[ . . . ] my preferred outcome to this situation is that Vetus promises to follow the rules and comes back.

My preferred outcome to this situation is that you follow this rule:

8. Don't derail threads. Stay on topic. And, especially, don't derail threads with unnecessary ad hominems and personal attacks.

You more or less admitted breaking it above and here:

He questioned whether I was really Catholic and called me a crypto-Jew.

To be fair, he apologized for this, both publicly and privately.  

Are you serious!?!?!?

And you still thought it was appropriate to bring up, especially here?

No, it was not appropriate, neither here nor anywhere.  I was wrong to do it.

[GottmitunsAlex]

Your name is bait.  I think most people realize that you did not choose the name Gottmittuns because you are a good little kitten who found its mittens and you shall have some pie.  It was engraved on the belt buckles of Nazi soldiers.  No wonder some people think that trads are Nazi sympathizers.

Please don't display ignorance Jaynek.
Read about where Gott mit uns comes from.
I overlooked this post of yours. But I could not remain silent once I read it. You think you can get away with these little devious implications of yours. It won't work.
You are crossing the line.

BTW, here is a little excerpt of the origin of that phrase.
 
Gott mit uns

Nobiscum Deus ('God with us') was a battle cry of the late Roman Empire and of the Byzantine Empire.[1] In the 17th century, the phrase Gott mit uns was used as a 'field word', a means of recognition akin to a password,[2] by the army of Gustavus Adolphus at the battles of Breitenfeld (1631), Lützen (1632) and Wittstock (1636) in the Thirty Years' War.[3] In 1701, Frederick I of Prussia changed his coat of arms as Prince-Elector of Brandenburg. The electoral scepter had its own shield under the electoral cap. Below, the motto Gott mit uns appeared on the pedestal.

Do you mean to deny that the motto "Gott mit uns" was used by the Nazis?  Or that after the fall of the Third Reich it was not longer used, so apparently the Germans felt the association with Nazism was a good reason to abandon their historical motto?  Do you expect people to believe you chose your screen name as a sign of your love for our German-born Pope? 

I have a Germanic background.  I speak Deutsch.
What is your problem?
BTW, you need to brush up on your cross-examination. Those are lousy questions.
I take it you watch Judge Judy a lot. 


Edit: Vox, your friend is insisting on the false implications.
I am not piling on her.  Please look at the message trails. She is just spewing venom.
I have not offended her not attacked nor have said any slurs of any kind to her person.



 

[City Smurf]

I won't miss him.

[JayneK]

Do you mean to deny that the motto "Gott mit uns" was used by the Nazis?  Or that after the fall of the Third Reich it was not longer used, so apparently the Germans felt the association with Nazism was a good reason to abandon their historical motto?  Do you expect people to believe you chose your screen name as a sign of your love for our German-born Pope? 

I have a Germanic background.  I speak Deutsch.
What is your problem?

Your screen name is a motto that was used by Protestants attacking Catholics and later by Nazis, also enemies of the Church.  Germany no longer uses it, probably due to its infamous associations.  There are other people here who are proud of their German heritage (and rightly so) and none of them shows it in a way that is disloyal to the Church.

[vakarian]

In the 17th century, the phrase Gott mit uns was used as a 'field word', a means of recognition akin to a password,[2] by the army of Gustavus Adolphus at the battles of Breitenfeld (1631), Lützen (1632) and Wittstock (1636) in the Thirty Years' War.[3] In 1701, Frederick I of Prussia changed his coat of arms as Prince-Elector of Brandenburg.

You do realize this means "Gott mit uns" was a Protestant catchphrase. It was used by Protestants fighting Catholics and by the explicitly Protestant state of Prussia.

If you liked the motto "God with us" so much and wanted to reference it, why wouldn't you use "Nobiscum Deus," as St. Jerome rendered it in his Vulgate?

Maybe bc he likes the German variant? Maybe bc Latin is so prevalent here that it is refreshing to see a username that is in one's native language? Yah, we know Germans are easy targets what with being prots, Nazis, etc. So knock it off, already.

[GottmitunsAlex]

In the 17th century, the phrase Gott mit uns was used as a 'field word', a means of recognition akin to a password,[2] by the army of Gustavus Adolphus at the battles of Breitenfeld (1631), Lützen (1632) and Wittstock (1636) in the Thirty Years' War.[3] In 1701, Frederick I of Prussia changed his coat of arms as Prince-Elector of Brandenburg.

You do realize this means "Gott mit uns" was a Protestant catchphrase. It was used by Protestants fighting Catholics and by the explicitly Protestant state of Prussia.

If you liked the motto "God with us" so much and wanted to reference it, why wouldn't you use "Nobiscum Deus," as St. Jerome rendered it in his Vulgate?

I could have also used Immanuel (Emmanuel)
But I preferred God with us.

[JayneK]

You do realize this means "Gott mit uns" was a Protestant catchphrase. It was used by Protestants fighting Catholics and by the explicitly Protestant state of Prussia.

If you liked the motto "God with us" so much and wanted to reference it, why wouldn't you use "Nobiscum Deus," as St. Jerome rendered it in his Vulgate?

Maybe bc he likes the German variant? Maybe bc Latin is so prevalent here that it is refreshing to see a username that is in one's native language? Yah, we know Germans are easy targets what with being prots, Nazis, etc. So knock it off, already.

Nobody picks on Germans for being Germans.  Germans who use Protestant/ Nazi slogans should expect a negative reaction from Catholics.

For the record, my husband is part German.  He was largely raised by his German grandmother and she, as far as I can tell, is the person most responsible for handing on the Catholic faith to him.  I will be eternally grateful to her for this.  

[drummerboy]

To all you people whining about "Vetus called me this..." grow up.  You are obviously ignorant of the fact that many saints were by no means friends with other saints on earth.  Yes, even saints got into disagreements.   And living in a large family, if me and my siblings all held on to what everyone said in the past, we would be at each other's throats all the time. Forgive and forget.
Anyway, I hope Vetus' ban is lifted, he was vital to FE.