Projekt Cloverleaf - Chemtrails and their Purpose

[JoeVoxxPop]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--fXW1GsPws" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--fXW1GsPws</a>
Its just a matter of time

[LaramieHirsch]

Its just a matter of time

??  Uh, you just posted a video of Half Life 2, the video game.  (When will they finally put out Half Life 3?!)

But seriously, that previous post from Hawaii...yeah.  That video is so depressing.  Makes me wanna get a group together to test local creek, rain, and faucet water.  I'd also be interested to see if there's any radioactive particulates landing in our water supply from Fukushima.

[JoeVoxxPop]

Yeah I know....hl2 seemed to me to be the best representation of what the future holds for our socioty on its present course. Without the aliens.

[Habitual_Ritual]

I know that alluminum is one of the chemicals they think is being sprayed. Crops are now having a hard time growing because of the high aluminum content in our soil. But thank our lucky stars that Monsanto is now coming out with GMO aluminum growing seeds. Whew! And I thought we were in trouble!

BTW, I don't trust anyone who joyfully slaughters babies for their own personal gain. This includes the entire District of Columbia. As far as I am concerned, the burden of proof for me to believe anything they say is on them.

Hear Hear. Bunch of Satanist is all they are in the final analysis.

[kingtheoden]

There is something serious regarding the trails. 

I recall in 2003 in upstate New York seeing a Star Trek Tholian Web.  This was in a completely quiet area of air traffic, but somehow it looked like a checkerboard was put in the sky.  Also, in NJ I recall every few days seeing plane after plane, apart from the normal traffic patterns, lay down parallel lines of something.

A few years ago on a different forum, someone found the Department of Energy homepage dealing with the Chem trail program.  It was called something else and it somewhere on one of my old computers.  Probably a search will return it though.

Who know what insane things they are doing up there.  My sense is that there are different projects (weather modification testing, over-the-horizon radar, etc.)

[Habitual_Ritual]

I recall in 2003 in upstate New York seeing a Star Trek Tholian Web.  This was in a completely quiet area of air traffic,

Funny you mention this.We have a family friend who runs radar in the air-force.We were also in a part of Upstate NY that is not a big corridor for aircraft activity.we were on a lake fishing and the sky was cris-crossed with chem-trails.He actually commented on how unusual this level of activity was for the region.

[LaramieHirsch]

Hmmm.  Here's a local news report that attempts debunking it. 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jzJrOuvKM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jzJrOuvKM</a>

If I see more debunking about the chemical aspects of chemtrails, I'll be even more convinced that it is not a real conspiracy.  I mean, we have folks saying "Hey, look at these high levels of barium and aluminum."  But honestly, can we believe these people?  Can we believe the tests are accurate?  Can we believe that even if there are traces of these elements that their source is actually from planes? 

I believe it is more likely we get radioactive particles through rain from the Fukushima disaster.  At this point, I am not fully convinced in either direction.  All I know is that I see chemtrails/contrails quite often enough to note their existence.

Someone test their local water for me!

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UPDATE: Here's a big ol' hour-long interview about the subject.  I just can't decide.  I'll watch it later.

Posted for record.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM56UqS-Yyk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM56UqS-Yyk</a>

[Habitual_Ritual]

UPDATE: Here's a big ol' hour-long interview about the subject.  I just can't decide.  I'll watch it later.

This is not really a matter one can decide.It is either happening or it is not.It's not like we can fashion our own reality although many folk these days try to.   

[verenaerin]

Maybe the question one must first ask is not," Are Chemtrails real?", but, "Is my government capable of poisoning it's citizens for it's own unknown reasons?".

[thomas7]

Found some articles that might shed some light on this subject.  Clifford  Carnicom has been researching chemtrails since 1999.  He was a guest on Coast2coast late night radio last night, though I was able only to listen for a brief time. Unfortunately, to listen to the show one has to be a subscriber .

http://www.carnicominstitute.org/html/articles_by_date.html