The_Harlequin_King
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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2012, 02:49:AM » |
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If it's really just about suits, and not 1950's-cut suits in particular, then there's nothing stopping any of you from wearing one. I wear suits fairly often myself. However, for business purposes, I much prefer contemporary slim suits.  Of course, they look better if you have a slim, Asiatic build like myself. But here's one of my more classic three-piece suits. I posted this image elsewhere also, but since it's relevant to the topic.... 
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 06:02:AM » |
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Su, this isn't Eng Comp 201. It's an internet forum. Your nitpicking of people's grammar and how they use common words is annoying and not at all helpful or even contributing to the discussion.
Saying a tie is vain is accusing those who wear ties as conceited and arrogant. That's how the word is used mostly today.
Spooky, I made a comment using precise wording. Your nitpicking of people's grammar and how they use precise words is annoying and not at all helpful of even contributing to the discussion. I do not "nitpick" other people's grammar and how they use words. That is an accusation based on expectations, not reality. I do however, for good reason, try to be precise and correct, both in my use of language and my understanding of language. Accusing me of such things is not proper, especially since the opportunity to learn more than what one knows now was presented. I know how the world is mostly used today. That is why I wrote a blog post on it. People may find scripture and other writings to be difficult to understand without knowledge of what vanity fully means. How can I be faulted for that? And yes, ties when taken as necessary to be "proper" are vanity in that common use of the word. Wearing a piece of silk tied in a specific way (using various methods) for no functional purpose cannot be anything but vanity. The question is how important one ranks it. If it is a requirement of a job or situation, fine, we all have to engage in vain activities in some situations, but it should be properly understood and not overly praised. That is essentially what this thread is about isn't it? Being overly concerned and judgemental about appearances beyond modesty? And, if I were as you seem to think in nitpicking and correcting others, I would never have any time to post anything but such things on this forum. And, to repeat it, I did not correct anyone. You responded to me in disagreement. Should I have just assumed you were using the word as I as or was not offering possible correction to resolve understanding the right course? And you could have taken the clarification as intended, as clarification, and moved on, instead of attacking me and accusing me. That is what is annoying and not helpful or even contributing to the discussion. Ties keep my neck a little warmer. They also stop the breeze from going through my button holes.
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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2012, 02:09:PM » |
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I don't understand why people oppose shorts. When it's hot, it's hot. Shorts on a grown man are perfectly acceptable.
The Fiftiesists are an annoying segment of traditional Catholicism.
Totally agree. What's wrong with common sense dictating what we wear? The WASP attitude among some traditionalists is VERY annoying. And not just about clothing.
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When you go up to receive communion, you're literally at the foot of the cross. Standing at all creation's center, the saints gather around. Martyrs, heroes staring into your very being. They lived AND died for Christ... can we say the same of ourselves? What are WE doing to further God's will in this life? Skipping Mass for our careers? Our education? Voting for heads of state, that don't recognize the source of all authority and power? They won't matter on your deathbed (or whatever end we meet).
So... why waste time with this modern world's nonsense? We have our own civilization: CHRISTENDOM. We must restore it whilst the modern world commits societal suicide.
Its naive and idealistic to believe government for man by man can succeed. Restore Christendom in our hearts and homes! Communities aren't that far off, its a numbers game.
"Accursed is the man that puts his trust in man" Book of Jeremiah Chapter XVII, verse 5.
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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2012, 02:26:PM » |
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So, when will you guys get over your ressentiment for WASPs? It's starting to get a little worn out.
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2012, 02:38:PM » |
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So, when will you guys get over your ressentiment for WASPs? It's starting to get a little worn out.
How is it "worn out" if it's still a big problem? The problem hasn't gone away.
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When you go up to receive communion, you're literally at the foot of the cross. Standing at all creation's center, the saints gather around. Martyrs, heroes staring into your very being. They lived AND died for Christ... can we say the same of ourselves? What are WE doing to further God's will in this life? Skipping Mass for our careers? Our education? Voting for heads of state, that don't recognize the source of all authority and power? They won't matter on your deathbed (or whatever end we meet).
So... why waste time with this modern world's nonsense? We have our own civilization: CHRISTENDOM. We must restore it whilst the modern world commits societal suicide.
Its naive and idealistic to believe government for man by man can succeed. Restore Christendom in our hearts and homes! Communities aren't that far off, its a numbers game.
"Accursed is the man that puts his trust in man" Book of Jeremiah Chapter XVII, verse 5.
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2012, 02:43:PM » |
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Why can't people just make an effort to look nice on formal occasions and be casual in casual situations? What's so hard about that?
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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2012, 02:44:PM » |
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Why can't people just make an effort to look nice on formal occasions and be casual in casual situations? What's so hard about that?
Because dress is objective, so if you should wear something in one situation it should be worn for all situations!
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2012, 02:48:PM » |
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I was curious in the differences between today and the 50's, so I looked up a photo of New York City in the 1950's and found this:  Just some kids playing stickball, and which is probably a more accurate portrayal of how most people dressed. Also, there are blacks and whites playing together. I found other pics of other cities during the 1950's as well, and apart from the women wearing dresses, the men are dressed the same with the exception of hats. I disagree that ties are vain though. They are practically required part of the "business uniform". I can tell you except for stick ball, it could be Chicago in those days. We played 16" soft ball. After a few games the ball became very soft as a "powderpuff". We used the sewer cover for "home", and another for second, and the curbs for first and third. Some kids wore Sears Roebuck blue jeans, or Osh Kosh, or some of us wore Big Yank wash paints, with multi-colored stripped tee shirts, or cheap sport shirts, with PF Flyers high top gym shoes. PF's were $4.95 everywhere, and that wasn't cheap but they were very good for an entire summer. Converse were for serious players in HS competition. Bob Cousy, baby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Cousytim
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2012, 02:51:PM » |
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So, when will you guys get over your ressentiment for WASPs? It's starting to get a little worn out.
How is it "worn out" if it's still a big problem? The problem hasn't gone away. Yes, exterminate the WASP vermin! They are obviously still in complete control of the country and their cultural norms dictate our behavior.
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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2012, 03:00:PM » |
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So, when will you guys get over your ressentiment for WASPs? It's starting to get a little worn out.
When Wannabe WASPS stop trying to make that culture the be-all end-all of Catholic Tradition, I for one will be satisfied.
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