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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 05:56:PM »

Laissez Fair Capitalism is a form of capitalism regulated solely by the law of the marketplace. It fails social justice and is prohibited by the Church.  See Catechism paragraph 2425.
Thank you for the reference.

The modern Church has been infiltrated by socialists and modernists. 

Come one. You and I both know no one with any real power in the Church is a socialist. The Cold War is over.
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 06:15:PM »

Laissez Fair Capitalism is a form of capitalism regulated solely by the law of the marketplace. It fails social justice and is prohibited by the Church.  See Catechism paragraph 2425.
Thank you for the reference.

The modern Church has been infiltrated by socialists and modernists. 

Come one. You and I both know no one with any real power in the Church is a socialist.
The Cold War is over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrhVo1WA78
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 06:26:PM »

The Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace came out with a 41 page document advocating a world bank a few months ago.  So if it ain't the socialists, it's the communists. 
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 07:15:PM »

Laissez Fair Capitalism is a form of capitalism regulated solely by the law of the marketplace. It fails social justice and is prohibited by the Church.  See Catechism paragraph 2425.
Thank you for the reference.

The modern Church has been infiltrated by socialists and modernists.  It's the perfect combination to ensure Hell on Earth and Hell in the afterlife. Any notion of "social justice" that is based on material equity is also based on theft. 

By the way, the picture of the smoke stacks looks like Soviet Russia.  The most polluted places in the world are all from command economies that implement "social justice".

The Church also prohibits centrally planned governments/economies such as socialism and communism. The idea is that "equality" be allowed to flourish without undue burden or interference. Fringe ideas that reside on the far end of the political spectrum such as communism and laissez faire capitalism great such a burden and interference.
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2012, 11:36:PM »

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The Church also prohibits centrally planned governments/economies such as socialism and communism. The idea is that "equality" be allowed to flourish without undue burden or interference. Fringe ideas that reside on the far end of the political spectrum such as communism and laissez faire capitalism great such a burden and interference.

They say they do, but in reality they are advocating for government intervention in the markets which is socialist policy.  Third party interference that distorts the equilibrium price always produces shortages.  That's a fact proven in economic science.  Yet they are willing to sacrifice the common good in the name of equality.

The closest thing we have to laissez faire capitalism on this planet is Hong Kong, which despite no natural resources to speak of, is incredibly rich.  Yet they should be condemned? Stupidity. 
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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2012, 05:10:AM »

The modern Church has been infiltrated by socialists and modernists.  It's the perfect combination to ensure Hell on Earth and Hell in the afterlife. Any notion of "social justice" that is based on material equity is also based on theft.
Ah yes, indeed. Those darn modernists like Pope Leo XIII and Pius XI, Dorothy Day and G.K. Chesterton, ...
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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2012, 05:18:AM »

They say they do, but in reality they are advocating for government intervention in the markets which is socialist policy. 
Oh come on. Almost every economic theory has government intervention in the market, save for libertarian capitalism and anarchism. You're not an anarchist, are you?
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Third party interference that distorts the equilibrium price always produces shortages.
Au contraire. I can give a good example: Belgian railroads. Without the government, they'd go bankrupt immediately because the costs are too high.
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That's a fact proven in economic science.  Yet they are willing to sacrifice the common good in the name of equality.
No, that is part of a theory. I have studies economic science. I have seen all that stuff, and it lacks one crucial thing: HUMANS. Cheaper workers in poorer countries? => company moves. Poorer countries allows the factories to screw up the environment? => factories move.

That's all logical in theory, but the people are forgotten. The economy should not be based on profit or production, but on the people.
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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 11:11:AM »

You may have studied economics, but I don't think you understood it.  The Belgian railroad is a case in point.  Obviously the railroad should go bankrupt and be restructured into something sustainable, or funds diverted into more efficient forms of transport.  Why would you waste valuable resources on something that people clearly do not see much value in, in the name of the people?  Who made you the all knowing arbiter of human need?  You're hurting the people. 

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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2012, 11:22:AM »

You may have studied economics, but I don't think you understood it.
I've studied it well enough to see that it only works in theory.
The Belgian railroad is a case in point.  Obviously the railroad should go bankrupt and be restructured into something sustainable, or funds diverted into more efficient forms of transport.
Q.E.D.
Why would you waste valuable resources on something that people clearly do not see much value in, in the name of the people? 
It is CRUCIAL in this country, that's why. Universities can't support all students arriving by car, nor can our roads. It would also be an environmental disaster.

This is not the United States, with roads and structured cities. Our country already is one big traffic jam...

Of course, in purely theoretic capitalist economy => screw the environment, screw the students, screw the cities. Let's just bulldoze some older parts of town for parking space. Why not some Churches, it's not as if anyone uses them? They're also being preserved by the government here, what a waste of resources.
Who made you the all knowing arbiter of human need?  You're hurting the people. 
You ignore the people, and are hurting them so much more....
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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2012, 12:26:PM »

For the sake of university students?  What are these universities good for if they teach socialist economics?  Your country, due to the socialist entitlement mentality, is wasting resources on professional students rather than developing practical infrastructure.
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