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Phillipus Iacobus
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« Reply #130 on: April 18, 2012, 11:03:AM »
Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?
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« Reply #131 on: April 18, 2012, 12:06:PM »
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Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Thanks for saying that!

This crap is getting old. Bait and name call. Bait and name call... all while the Church is in shambles!
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« Reply #132 on: April 18, 2012, 12:12:PM »
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Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Not sure who this is directed at, but it's certainly logical to expect that those who disagree with you on SV are going to say so when discussing it on a public forum.
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The Church is intolerant in principle because she believes;
she is tolerant in practice because she loves.
The enemies of the Church are tolerant in principle because they do not believe;
 they are intolerant in practice because they do not love.

Timorem Domini docebo vos.
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« Reply #133 on: April 18, 2012, 01:00:PM »
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Quote from: Crusader_Philly
Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Not sure who this is directed at, but it's certainly logical to expect that those who disagree with you on SV are going to say so when discussing it on a public forum.

Thought that topic was not up for discussion.
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« Reply #134 on: April 18, 2012, 01:43:PM »
Quote from: OldMan
Quote from: Walty
Quote from: Crusader_Philly
Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Not sure who this is directed at, but it's certainly logical to expect that those who disagree with you on SV are going to say so when discussing it on a public forum.

Thought that topic was not up for discussion.

Well, it's technically not.  But it's been debated a decent amount on FE recently, so if the SVers are going to discuss SV then the SSPX-type folks are going to jump in too.  I don't see why that should be a surprise.

And it's nothing personal.  I happen to respect CP's views a lot.  We've had a number of good discussions about this in the chat room.
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Quote from: Rev. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange O.P.
The Church is intolerant in principle because she believes;
she is tolerant in practice because she loves.
The enemies of the Church are tolerant in principle because they do not believe;
 they are intolerant in practice because they do not love.

Timorem Domini docebo vos.


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« Reply #135 on: April 18, 2012, 02:40:PM »
Quote from: Walty
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Quote from: Crusader_Philly
Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Not sure who this is directed at, but it's certainly logical to expect that those who disagree with you on SV are going to say so when discussing it on a public forum.

Thought that topic was not up for discussion.


Well, it's technically not.  But it's been debated a decent amount on FE recently, so if the SVers are going to discuss SV then the SSPX-type folks are going to jump in too.  I don't see why that should be a surprise.

And it's nothing personal.  I happen to respect CP's views a lot.  We've had a number of good discussions about this in the chat room.
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One last point. It has been my experience that the SVs that enjoy this forum (and others!) seem to be those keeping to the rules while the sedeplenists are those who insult the SV position as if it is something from hell (and not a reasoned response to the situation in the Church today). Silly SVs take the bait and the fight is on... I pray that the good God straighten things out for us soon! We are killing ourselves!
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« Reply #136 on: April 18, 2012, 02:53:PM »
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Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Not sure who this is directed at, but it's certainly logical to expect that those who disagree with you on SV are going to say so when discussing it on a public forum.

Thought that topic was not up for discussion.

Well, it's technically not.  But it's been debated a decent amount on FE recently, so if the SVers are going to discuss SV then the SSPX-type folks are going to jump in too.  I don't see why that should be a surprise.

And it's nothing personal.  I happen to respect CP's views a lot.  We've had a number of good discussions about this in the chat room.

Thanks. My comment was not directed towards you, Walt, but this post:

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Modern day SV is a stage in life for some. Others just want to stand out.
Sadly, some get duped in it by strong influences.
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« Reply #137 on: April 18, 2012, 03:12:PM »
Quote from: Crusader_Philly
Quote from: Walty
Quote from: OldMan
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Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Not sure who this is directed at, but it's certainly logical to expect that those who disagree with you on SV are going to say so when discussing it on a public forum.

Thought that topic was not up for discussion.

Well, it's technically not.  But it's been debated a decent amount on FE recently, so if the SVers are going to discuss SV then the SSPX-type folks are going to jump in too.  I don't see why that should be a surprise.

And it's nothing personal.  I happen to respect CP's views a lot.  We've had a number of good discussions about this in the chat room.

Thanks. My comment was not directed towards you, Walt, but this post:

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Modern day SV is a stage in life for some. Others just want to stand out.
Sadly, some get duped in it by strong influences.
I will not get pulled into a discussion. But Walty answered very eloquently your original question:

"Well, it's technically not.  But it's been debated a decent amount on FE recently, so if the SVers are going to discuss SV then the SSPX-type folks are going to jump in too.  I don't see why that should be a surprise."
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« Reply #138 on: April 18, 2012, 04:35:PM »
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Do you have to get a word in about SVs anytime the opportunity presents itself?

Not sure who this is directed at, but it's certainly logical to expect that those who disagree with you on SV are going to say so when discussing it on a public forum.

Thought that topic was not up for discussion.


Well, it's technically not.  But it's been debated a decent amount on FE recently, so if the SVers are going to discuss SV then the SSPX-type folks are going to jump in too.  I don't see why that should be a surprise.

And it's nothing personal.  I happen to respect CP's views a lot.  We've had a number of good discussions about this in the chat room.

One last point. It has been my experience that the SVs that enjoy this forum (and others!) seem to be those keeping to the rules while the sedeplenists are those who insult the SV position as if it is something from hell (and not a reasoned response to the situation in the Church today). Silly SVs take the bait and the fight is on... I pray that the good God straighten things out for us soon! We are killing ourselves!

I don't think that the non-sedes attack sedevacantism out of the blue.  I only jumped into this thread because sedevacantism was being insinuated and I believe it's important that those on the fence see both sides of any particular argument.

I mean, let's call a spade a spade.  There is a large rift between SVs and SPs and each believes that the other rests upon a faulty and dangerous fundamental understanding of Church authority.  And that's ok.  It's good that we care about this and that we're passionate about discovering the truth and making sure others discover it too.  As I've said, I have a respect for SVs and enjoy discussing with them even if I believe that they are wrong.  This is a tricky issue and what is most respectable in the dialogue on it is the respective zeal and consideration that both sides give to the primary question.
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Quote from: Rev. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange O.P.
The Church is intolerant in principle because she believes;
she is tolerant in practice because she loves.
The enemies of the Church are tolerant in principle because they do not believe;
 they are intolerant in practice because they do not love.

Timorem Domini docebo vos.
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« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2012, 05:39:PM »
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I will not get pulled into a discussion. But Walty answered very eloquently your original question:

"Well, it's technically not.  But it's been debated a decent amount on FE recently, so if the SVers are going to discuss SV then the SSPX-type folks are going to jump in too.  I don't see why that should be a surprise."

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